• caboose2006@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I lived in china for 4 years, got out of the expat bubble, lived in smaller cities and I gotta say, for people that have never been to china or actually been friends with Chinese people, y’all are pretty allergic to any criticism, no matter how legitimate, of china. Maybe take a step back from YOUR OWN biases and be a little objective. There are great things about china. There are bad things about china. No country’s perfect

    • 秦始皇帝@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Quite the impressive straw man you’ve built here. At risk of falling into a no true Scotsman, I have never seen anyone on here even approach implying China is perfect simply that criticism should be situated within the proper context of material reality and pushing back on the unfortunate tidlewave of nonsense many people seem to believe is true and valid criticism.

      • caboose2006@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        You haven’t been the discourses I have. All my previous comment is based on firsthand experience right here on lemmy.

            • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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              2 months ago

              Might it have anything to do with your demeanor, disposition, actions and words?

              • caboose2006@lemmy.world
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                2 months ago

                Idk, I’ve been much more civil than you. Probably has to do with the fact my views on china aren’t as rosy as the sinophiles here on lemmy. Usually goes something like this “Idk man, there’s a lot of merit to the claim that there’s aggressive censorship in China. I experienced it firsthand.” And the response will be something like “You’re a brainwashed western chauvinist.”

                But I also get it from the other side. Like when it comes to healthcare in China. People call me a liar when I tell them it was fast, cheap, and good.

                So I guess I’m a liar to both sides of the china brain rot.