Essentially the same html/css rendering of Firefox or Chromium, still able to access the www, but with javascript fully removed for another language that can be interpreted - like python or lua. Is this feasible?

  • nixukty@lemmy.zip
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    5 hours ago

    based on your other replies, it looks like you want to be able to turn off JavaScript but still have a scripting language be able to run. I’m a little confused why you’d want that or what benefits that would bring.

  • lime!@feddit.nu
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    3 days ago

    there were plans for multiple scripting languages for the web, hence the type="javascript" attribute on the <script> tag. the thing that became javascript was originally more like a lisp, but netscape wanted to cash in on the popularity of java applets so they made the language look more java-y.

    the bones are there, there’s just no sense in implementing it in mainstream browsers now.

    • e0qdk@reddthat.com
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      3 days ago

      Microsoft had a Visual Basic variant (VBScript) in IE that got some attention back in the 90s; it’s probably just as well that JS won instead of that…

      In modern webdev type="module" is used to indicate an ES6 module and type="importmap" to include a JSON table of paths to modules. Still basically JS, but the parameter is still used in a meaningful way.

  • CameronDev@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    Arguably typescript fits, it is converted to JS for runtime, but the developer writes TS. You theoretically could transpile python or lua to JS, no idea if it exists yet though.

    Otherwise WASM would be the main contender, dunno if lua or python can compile to wasm, but lots of languages can.

    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 days ago

      Typescript doesn’t run on the browser. But I’m pretty sure we will see native typescript soon. At this point, TS is practically the industry standard for developing serious JavaScript.

      • CameronDev@programming.dev
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        2 days ago

        I dunno, I don’t see the benefit to native TS in the browser. For compatibility, all sites will continue to serve JS, so what does TS gain anyone? And there is no performance benefit, maybe a performance hit given none of the type validation can happen until all of the scripts have downloaded, so execution can’t begin until that has happened?

        I could be way off on this though, I’m not a webdev :/

  • nimpnin@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    The network effect makes this unlikely to take off. But in theory it’s possible, and I suppose somebody probably has created/will create one as a hobby project/prototype that a small number of people will use.

  • GatesMcBalmer@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Sure but then you are basically creating an alternate web which is incompatible with the current one. Your browser wouldn’t be able to load any js based sites and current browsers would not be able to load your python/lua based sites.