I was curious how common it is to be, say, a leftist in a very conservative area.

My county, family, and school are all very conservative. It makes it a bit intimidating to engage in any political discussion. I also rarely get to hear leftist opinion anywhere in person, which means i need to devote a lot of time to considering and thinking about arguments that are probably already solved.

Are you, or have you been, in a similar situation?

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    I bet at least one of your “far right” friends is a racist.

    I would probably actually put money on it.

    I’m curious what makes them “far right,” but not enough for you to think less of them. Do you have any ideals whatsoever, or do you just think they’re all created equal?

    I cannot think of a single “far right” concept that would not make me think less of a person for believing.

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      I’m pretty sure they aren’t.

      For the longest time in Denmark the most racist party was a left wing party. Their followers are often those who have the least resources, so they don’t vote on the suits on the far-right wing. I don’t get why it seems to be the opposite in the US.

      The most far-right party we currently have don’t spend too much time on emigrational issues, but they still have this stance:

      Over the past 40 years, Denmark has undergone the largest population change ever. Immigration has had major consequences for Denmark, not only in terms of terrorist risk, social tensions, economic challenges, crime and religious requirements, but also culturally. Liberal Alliance believes that the influence of cultures that are contrary to the values and fundamental freedoms on which Danish society is based should be countered. Free and liberal societies do not arise by themselves. They must be defended in order to be preserved.

      Asylum

      Therefore, the Liberal Alliance wants to put an end to spontaneous asylum, which is given to asylum seekers standing at the Danish border. Asylum should be given to those people who are most in need. That is why we want to abolish spontaneous asylum, as it is primarily given to people who are relatively resourceful and therefore need less asylum compared to other groups such as f.ex. quota refugees. If you have managed to get all the way to the Danish border and are not a refugee, you have less need for asylum than people who are outright refugees and seek protection from war, conflict and destruction.

      Nationality

      Obtaining citizenship in Denmark is a gift. It is not a right. The Liberal Alliance wants to tighten the requirements for citizenship, because we believe that there are a number of requirements and expectations attached to the privilege of becoming a citizen in a liberal democracy. We want to have greater certainty that nye citizens have understood what it takes to be a democratic citizen than is the case today.

      We want citizens who apply for citizenship to be subjected to a profiling that analyzes their behavior ift. some defined requirements and expectations. If a citizen f.ex. ad has repeatedly hailed terrorist acts, threatening other citizens ifm. apostasy from a religion, acted hostile or threatening towards homosexuals or has acted as informants towards authorities in countries Denmark does not cooperate with, this will count down in the assessment of whether there is reason to believe that they will comply with applicable law and respect the spirit of the basic law.

      The profiling is submitted to the Committee on citizenship, which makes a decision on whether the citizen should be set to receive citizenship by law. Read more about our immigration policy here.

      Integration

      The best way to integrate foreigners in Denmark is to ensure that they enter the labour market. Bl.a. know that it pays better to be at work, rather than on transfer income.

      By coming out to a workplace, people get a better knowledge of Danish culture and Danish norms. It also provides an individual responsibility for one’s own existence when one gets out of passive support and starts earning one’s own money. This is the path to good integration.

      In addition, the Liberal Alliance will fight parallel societies by taking a stand against social control on, among other things.a. our educational institutions. We will do this specifically by banning the so-called prayer rooms, which are largely used to retain Muslim students in religious dogmas.

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          I agree. And I think a lot of the people voting on that party will try to make it sound like it’s not, or simply look the other way and ignore that stance from the party.

          Here is one of our left wing parties:

          Contempt for Danish values

          We have received far too many foreigners who have neither the ability, desire or willingness to be integrated in Denmark, and who came here alone because the Danes have built one of the world’s most generous societies. The result is large, isolated parallel societies, where immigrants from Islamic countries for almost two generations have been able to live unhindered according to the rules, the way of life, the habits and power structures that they brought to Denmark: clan rule, gender division, violent and patriarchal ways of life, women’s oppression and the Koran as a guideline in life.

          While many of them live among themselves in a backward and violent code of honor, they despise the Danes, who otherwise have to pay the price for their social fraud, crime, lazy attitude towards education and work, the destruction of public housing and the parasite on public coffers in general.

          Not integration – but assimilation

          For more than half a century, an irresponsible political majority has allowed immigration from Muslim countries, which has cost the Danes hundreds of billions of dollars that we could otherwise have spent on patching the holes in our own welfare society.

          We should not be satisfied with a superficial ”integration”; we want assimilation: sincere recognition of and empathy for Danish values. Only assimilation can prevent Denmark from falling apart over time.

          The rise of Islam must be stopped

          The Danish People’s party rejects all demands for special treatment of Muslims. Everywhere in Denmark we will oppose gender-segregated swimming pools, prayer rooms and ostentatious mosques, minarets and prayer calls in public spaces. We will not allow Muslim children and their parents to intimidate teachers from using drawings of their prophet in teaching, and we will not take into account, let alone celebrate, Muslim holidays. We will not allow Islamic preachers to radicalize other Muslims, in prison or at large, and we will protect the Muslim women who will break out of their religious and Norm-bound prison.

          More repatriations

          The integration of Muslim foreigners in Denmark has failed. From the first immigrants arrived, we are today faced with two and three generations, born and raised in Denmark, who expose Denmark to the same as nye challenges: some young Muslims have undergone a neo-Islamic revival, which shows that education, steady work and a good Danish are not a guarantee of a harmonious view of the generous country that welcomed their parents.

          If Denmark is to be preserved, we must resort to the repatriation of those who want to replace our form of government and our values, and who put the koran and sharia in place of the Basic Law and the Bible.

          It should take precedence that the Danes can continue their lives as Danes in a Denmark they know, which future generations can also regard as their own country.