• Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
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    21 days ago

    More OEMs should ship devices with Linux as an option, discounted by the Windows license cost.

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      21 days ago

      The problem there is Windows still has negative cost for OEMs due to all the bloatware they bundle.

      They get paid for that McAfee and Epic Games icon.

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      21 days ago

      OEMs: Sorry, best I can do is tripling the amount of pre-installed bloatware that I get kickbacks on, to not only offset the cost but raise profits more

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      20 days ago

      Here in Brazil, a lot of vendors are offering laptops with linux, but they do this just to offer a lower price, and put the most weird distro possible, that no one knew existed, so everyone who buys have to install their own os. The bad thing about it is that it creates a really bad first impression about linux on common users, who mostly end up asking the tech person from the family to install windows for them

      Edit: another random fun fact: in order to offer a lower price, some brands around here also ship laptops with freedos, don’t ask me why.

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        21 days ago

        Why don’t they just install Mint, Zorin, or even xUbuntu (XFCE versions of each)…

        That’s 3 examples with actual support and a user base >3 edgelord cat bois.

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          21 days ago

          I ask myself the same question. I have no idea. Mine is from vaio and came with some sort of modded debian that looked like a stripped down win xp with custom repos that didn’t even load properly.

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            20 days ago

            You’d think that installing a niche distro like that is more difficult than one of the big ‘plug and play’ ones. Meaning they actively put more work into it, how strange.

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          21 days ago

          Most distro maintainers would expect something for commercial licences. Can’t have them take all your hard earned money! Max I can do is 0$.

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            21 days ago

            They’re usually gpl licensed. You can do whatever you want with it (including selling it for a bazillion monies) as long as you give the code too.

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      21 days ago

      The Framework laptops have been selling out with backlog orders now. But with new models recently out, all the Linux ones sold out well before the Windows ones.

      I think it just kind of goes to say, if you know a bit about computers, Linux is a go-to. Of course those that are a bit tech-savvy as well would just get a Windows one, clear it off and install the distro of their choice. Plus once upgrade is done, my OS and files are all there like nothing happened. Things like setting up Windows again on a new device or new install is like a full day task.

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      21 days ago

      they actually make money on many of those windows preinstalls due to all the bullshit they get paid to put on.

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        21 days ago

        The fun part is that they can bundle an equal amount of bloatware on linux for even more revenue.

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          21 days ago

          The actually funny part is that they can’t. Most of the bloatware is not available on Linux because it doesn’t support it.