• febra@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    First and foremost, there’s no such thing as a “communist country”. Communism is a very late stage of socialist development when all class contradictions have been abolished. We don’t know what that might look like, but the consensus is that we can’t really talk about a country being communist but rather an overall state of the world.

    Secondly, China has a fairly good grip over its billionaire class. They don’t have the class power their class has in the US, Europe, or the rest of the western capitalist world. The capitalist class in China is subject to the wishes of the working class represented by the party with its over 100 million members.

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      6 days ago

      100% they have a class based system it’s just not talked about.

      They do have a bourgeoisie class and a peasent class.

      They have doctors, lawyers, construction workers, government employees, billionaires and unprecedented wealth within families.

      Then they have the peasant class the rice paddy farmers, the package sorters, the food delivery drivers, the minimum income workers living in cramped apartments and the unemployed.

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        Yes, that’s why it’s not communist. But it is socialist, because the working class controls the government and holds the reins of the economy.

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          Yes, exactly like the working class in the US controls the government and holds the reins of the economy.

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            6 days ago

            Except not. Tell me more about how ignorant you are about political economy theory and how China actually functions.

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              6 days ago

              ohhhhhhhhhhh it’s evolved. I’m going off of an old system:

              Class structure and earnings

              In the last half century, China’s class structure has undergone a major transformation, evolving from a simple system of three socialist strata (cadres, workers, and peasants) in the pre-reform era to a hybrid class system mixing capitalist features with aspects of the previous socialist class system. The Chinese market-oriented reforms and the expansion of the private sector changed property relations and generated a class structure with striking similarities to that of other capitalist societies (Bian Citation2002). Previous research has adopted multiple approaches to understand the class dynamics and earnings in transitional China. Some research on urban China applies Goldthorpe’s neo-Weberian class theory to the Chinese context (Zou Citation2015) while others have adapted Wright’s neo-Marxist class framework to explain class-based earnings inequality (Li, Qin, and Chen Citation2012; Lin and Wu Citation2009). Lin and Wu (Citation2009) compared different class schema and concluded that a modified neo-Marxian class approach (albeit one that incorporated hukou) best captured the evolving class structure in transitional China. They also demonstrated that class has become the major source of earnings disparities among Chinese workers.

              Source: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21620555.2021.1878019#d1e358

              Hukou: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou

              Hukou is incorporated into almost every Chinese socioeconomic and political system