• Eheran@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Asking people, sadly, is not the reality check it should be. Trump was voted after all.

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        3 days ago

        I mean 2 things:

        1. In Memory things were always better than they actually were.
        2. Asking random people what they want gives you a big portion of answers that are things that are actually super harmful to them. Most people are simply too stupid and/or easy to manipulate/steer/… Hence things like people depending on immigration voting for Trump… go bankrupt later…
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          3 days ago

          The liberal when presented with the prospect of democracy: “Actually no the masses are too stupid to make their own decisions.”

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            21 hours ago

            As opposed to the communist “the masses of socialist states were tricked by CIA propaganda into fighting against their own governments”?

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                2 hours ago

                Ok, so you can trust “the masses” only if they support their government or policies you like. If they observe incompetence, corruption or oppression by their nonNATO state its a NATO psyop? Not sure if that’s as strong an argument for socialism as you seem to think.

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                  Ok, so you can trust “the masses” only if they support their government or policies you like.

                  I for sure wouldn’t trust people that, for example, supported the German government in 1933-1945 (actually, the vast majority of German governments), or the people who support the states that invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and which are engaging in the genocide in Palestine.

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            2 days ago

            No idea why you put me in some group like that or what that accomplishes.

            But in any case, yes, most people are too dumb, too easy to manipulate. Just look at the USA, wild stuff. But pretty much any other place on earth works too, perhaps we have to look at history. Germany in or before WW2 was wild too.

            This is also the reason even a kingdom can be really good, simply by having a good king. That’s also the issue every(?) empire had… once the great leader is gone it all goes to shit.

            We see live how the masses of easily manipulated people cause so much damage by enabling shit stains like Trump. Is that really that hard to believe?

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              Yeah man I don’t think having a gold plated pedophile in charge of everything while everyone else works in the mud and dies of plague every few years sounds better than sharing the fruit of human knowledge and ingenuity with everyone so that everyone uplifts one another’s ability to participate in society.

              We see live how the masses of easily manipulated people cause so much damage by enabling shit stains like Trump

              I’m sure that problem will just go away and not get way worse when you have one wealthy inbred dipshit with slaves who gets to decide what’s true and what education looks like for the entire society. Feudalism has been relegated to obscurity for a reason: it was outcompeted in the west by capitalism and extremely outcompeted in the east by socialism.