• r3g3n3x@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    People need to follow what they believe is necessary but I ask this: how many degrees of separation from your money is far enough to enjoy a product without having to worry about where the money is going? Eventually someone you don’t agree with will touch it.

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      I pay Mullvad. They pay the Founder. The Founder makes a large donation to anti-immigration parties.

      Is that really enough abstraction for you?

      • droans@lemmy.world
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        “Yeah, I give money to the Nazi party. Do you know how long it’s been since they actually killed Jews? Get over it!”

      • freely1333@reddthat.com
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        I mean if you avoid companies where fascists directly profit from your purchases, I cannot think of a single company I would bet the house on not being one of those - so do you go hungry and thirsty or do you just steal all of your food and clothing and means of transportation?

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          There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Or fascism. But maybe that’s being redundant.

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      I mean, it’s at least one degree of separation, right? Not giving money to Mullvad directly means Nazis have less money. So at least one.

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      2 days ago

      Yeah, I mean people still drive VW and GM cars despite the respective manufacturers both benefiting from Nazi Germany during world war 2.

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        2 days ago

        That is… very much a different thing in many different ways.

        If people were buying them during WWII for instance, that would be a huge problem.

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          They did. After world war 2 ended, VW continued and GM reabsorbed Opel with no penalties.