• RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Liberals and western “leftists” use the idea as a thought terminating cliche, hiding behind it to avoid recognizing when two diametrically opposed things are in fact not equally bad.

    When the “lesser” evil is an openly genocidal liberal politician, they bang on and on about how it’s tactical and a step in a direction and trolley problem and blah blah blah.

    But when the lesser evil is a state they’ve been taught to villify? Oh buddy, don’t you know two things can be bad at once? I hate all sides equally! (but only repeat the narratives of one).

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      The point is that the two things are in fact not diametrically opposed. Russia is a capitalist, imperial power. As is the USA. As is Iran and China.

      The notion that two things can be bad at once is actually an antidote to the thought terminating cliche of “the enemy of my enemy is my ally”. It encourages to actually analyse the two things that are supposedly diametrically opposed at their own merits.

      It used to be common for leftists not to condone any war effort by capitalist/imperialist states, because there is nothing to gain. But now, campist “leftists” (I can use scare-quotes to childishly delegitimize self-proclaimed “leftists”, too) are laser-focused in their anti-americanism that they don’t see what’s happening around them anymore.

      When the “lesser” evil is an openly genocidal liberal politician, they bang on and on about how it’s tactical and a step in a direction and trolley problem and blah blah blah.

      I agree. Therefore I condone neither politicians nor states. Because “both things” are “bad”, as it were.

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        4 months ago

        China: Capitalist, imperialist

        Could you list the victims of Chinese imperialism? Please also define imperialism and capitalism.

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          Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, India, Tibet, Xianjang/Oriental Turkestan, Venezuela, Ecuador, Pakistan, Djibouti, Kenya, Laos, Cambodia, Pakistan, the Maldives, Sri Lanka… I could continue, but I wouldn’t end today.

          China’s just as imperialist, neocolonialist and economically expansionist as the US or Russia.