Literally what we are saying. I don’t think we are understanding what you’re trying to reinforce.

I’m not sure if you mean “trust” as in a handshake or not, but that’s not what we’re talking about about. At larger scales, everything is done in written contracts, strictly. Shit rolls DOWNhill if those are not airtight, and that’s when lawsuits kick off.

Not true. I’ve been involved in litigation with both AWS and Google over unsecured comms that were defined as being TLS secured in SLA/SLO contracts and found not to be. Not that anything nefarious was happening necessarily, but the expectation is clear.

Whether these asshats even check for such requirements with a Musk run company right now 🤷

It COULD possibly be that they are logging every exchange happening at the network fabric between the service layers, but nobody knows unless they intentionally take steps to investigate or accidentally prove it.

Generally no, because most hosting companies would have something baked into SLA/SLO contracts, but all of this shit is done so illegally and shadily now, I wouldn’t put a hard “no” on that possibility.

Also handy heard anything like that. Supporting info appreciated.

Hard to take anything these morons take seriously. I’d need to see some receipts to even half believe this isn’t the setup to declare an emergency in an attempt to delay or deny the midterm outcomes.

If it’s just a modem with no WiFi, then it’s not capable of this specific thing.

That’s what they are deploying. This has been possible for awhile, but has recently gotten much creepier: https://groundy.com/articles/wifi-densepose-full-body-tracking-through-walls-using-your/

Nope: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/wi-fi-routers-used-to-detect-human-locations-poses-within-a-room

It’s gotten even more capable where it can basically act as a presence sensor through walls as well. It’s not simple device tracking at all.

And saddle them with the debt. Fuck the investors and the cyclical scam machine. They should forfeit that money outright.

Perfectly legal. Unless they were legally charged and ordered by a court to preserve data considered to be used in a crime, they can’t be charged with shit. Cops don’t dictate this, courts do, AND that scope only applies to an active prosecution anyway.