In Germany scientology is considered a cult and not a church. No privileges for cults including taxes.

I’d like to see the same for churches but that topic is not on the political table at the moment.

ISS gets delivered tons of stuff regularly, stuff that has been produced using the full extent of all supply chains of the whole planet Earth. All dreams of replicating just a tiny part, only the most necessary parts, of these supply chains on Mars are delusional, and that’s at the low level necessary to support only two humans (probably women as they’re much more resilient, gritty and persistent than male astronauts).

And again: For what? Simply to prove “we can”? The money this hazardous endeavour would cost would better be spent improving living conditions on planet Earth. If you want to replicate life on Mars do one of the “1.000 days in an sealed off enclosure”-experiments here on earth - saves tons of money (literally) and is much less deadly.

I won’t interfere with that community as it’s a nice game of thoughts and ideas and probably has a lot of entertaining and informative aspects. Have fun 👋

Won’t happen anyways. Political or financial reasons are being dwarfed by the inevitable death of the crew. Again: Two years in a tin can, touch down on mars with a frail crew, liftoff from mars which needs a lot of fuel, two years in a tin can…

And all that for what? Two humans stepping around on a dead planet? For what? We can’t even keep us alive on the planet that is our homestead - what do we do over there? Spend a trillion for some nice pics of the scenery?

Forget it. Totally and completely forget it. Will not happen.

There’s nothing to discuss. Mars will not be settled, period. Humanity will have extinguished itself before the necessary resources can be gathered.

And besides that every human mission sent there will be a failure. Two years of space travel in a tin can alone will be the end of it. They would never make it back. A cemetery is not what constitutes a settlement.

This was not just a win for journalism, but a win for basic reading comprehension.

And that to the faces of the owners of a highly regarded newspaper. giggle

You mean 40 years of delay for the destruction of our biosphere?

I’d call that a win.

Athletes, at least in the sports that make any money at all.

The ignored button.

Their children will throw away that shit. Games shouldn’t become torture devices.

Guys: Take a shower, shave and put on clean clothes before you meet with someone.

Hygiene is very sexy.