If I understand it right, the moderator of the mastodon.world instance has blocked several posts by Hasnain Kazim, as Kazim reported yesterday on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/661473263/posts/10163657720033264/
Kazim is a quite famous and successful book author in Germany and something between left, conservative and liberal. He was journalist for the most important German weekly news magazine Spiegel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasnain_Kazim?wprov=sfla1
Canceling his posts is stupid and certainly completely exaggerated. To me from the external perspective it seems that the moderator is abusing his power. He is damaging free and respectful discussion. Furthermore, when a famous person like Kazim reports those experiences to his broad audience, who do not understand the functioning of the fediverse, the moderator also damages Mastodon in general significantly, it seems to me.
What do you think about this case ?
Because Mastodon is a predominantly leftist platform, they’ll always be doing stuff like this.
Maybe I am too dense to get this, but how exactly can you be between left, conservative and liberal? Is that being centrist?
Yep. But I’m not sure what Centrism is, exactly.
In America’s Overton Window, Centrism typically means Classical Liberalism, while eschewing far-left mindsets like Marxism.
“Centrism” in modern politics is “being too ashamed to admit of being right-wing”.
Not really, that’s just something leftists say to lash out because they’re mad that liberals aren’t progressive.
No.
The majority of voters are centrists, if we were just ashamed of being right wing a Democrat could never win office, now could they? You require centrist votes to win any election
(major parties are only 30% of voters each, the other 40% are not secretly right wing)
~11% of American voters are more on the extreme left, another ~11% more on the extreme right-wing, leaving a solid 4/5ths in the middle.
Which is why these terms aren’t useful in a global forum like the Fediverse - when USA Democrats are simultaneously both left and also right, depending on the recipient’s POV, then the term ceases to convey any (non-ambiguous) meaning.
Or we could use the terms properly in relation to the country of origin… except as the person you replied to shows, people refuse to use that level of consideration that their preferred way is not the only lens through which to view the entire world.
Honestly, spending time on Lemmy has made me less left-leaning than I used to be. All the hate and vitriol and especially disinformation spreading has really turned me away from it all. Especially when I see how it is identical to the right-wing POVs.
Extremists on both sides: death to everyone who holds viewpoints different from my own!!
Saying you have dropped your support for things like fair wages and human rights because you can’t bother to learn to distinguish how that’s different from the right-wing has made me more right-wing, is not the win you seem to think it is.
Then it is a good thing that I never said that.
What’s the difference between tankies and the far left?
I am often called a centrist… I hold views the left and the right both despise, I agree with one here and the other there. In USA we are officially “independents” and are the majority of voters (40% independents, 30% Democrat (“left”), 30% Republican.
“independents” also include all other political parties (Greens, Libertarians, Socialists, et al), which are more active locally than federally.
This post says who he is and that he got banned from mastodon.world, but it does not say what he posted there before getting banned.
The .world network is not known, in general for having unconventional rules or heavy-handed moderation. Without more information, I have to assume he posted something that would get him banned a lot of other places too.
It’s right there:
A post of him was deleted where he reported that a majority of arabic language comments in international media were celebrating the attack in Berlin on a Pride event, and were also celebrating the guy who weaponized his car. He says that this is a big, massive problem in that post.
He then just posted “The mods have deleted my previous comment, is that for real?” while citing the same comment again - this is what got him banned.
!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com material.
So he posted misinformation that attacked arabic speakers, and the post got taken down?
I don’t see the problem.
You don’t see the problem? That’s the problem.
Feel free to prove “misinformation” though. I assume you must have the logs, share them here to prove misinformation.
I think there’s a fundamental misunderstanding still of how the Fediverse works.
Any instance, mastodon.world for instance, is NOT Mastodon itself. Mastodon is JUST the software that was chosen. Each instance is allowed their own rules. Each community is allowed their own rules within the instance. If you get banned, think of it more that someone has asked you to leave their home and doesn’t want you there.
We have to get away from these ideas of that every instance of Mastodon or Lemmy or whatever completely reflects the entire Fediverse.
This comes with a big caveat. I think the world still sees us this way. And I think we HAVE to do a better job of, “This is a platform and if you’re banned you’re gone.” Instead we should help folks understand, if you’re kicked off an instance, there are a dozen others. There is a community for everyone. Hell, run your own or ask and folks can run one for you.
I will 100% disagree with a LOT of folks on a LOT of issues and I’d never want to host socials for the majority of folks. BUT I will absolutely defend your right to exist on the Fediverse and even help you, to a point, set up your own instance. But everyone needs to be mindful, that those places can and will still ban you. But you can at least get your message out to your community.
I don’t know what was said as I don’t speak German. I also don’t know why he was banned. But that is .world’s right to eject anyone from their community they don’t want. If the person decides to leave and not come back at all, that really sucks. But they also have the right to start their own community and continue interacting.
I’ve banned someone from TubeFree.org. I’ve blocked folks. I’ve refused to allow someone to create an account on TubeFree.org. Am I censoring someone? Maybe, but I’m attempting to build a specific community.
I’d absolutely LOVE to see any of these big instances have communities start their own instance. We shouldn’t have monoliths in the fediverse. The more diverse the network, the better. Honestly I’m trying to help communities run their own for their own community. I’ve even been talking with folks and attempting to work with folks on a spin up your own image to run from a business or home that is plug and play.
We NEED people to run their own, control their data, manage this themselves. We’re not there yet, but I honestly think someday we will be and everyone will just have a presence on the Fediverse. A community blocks you? You won’t even notice because YOU control YOUR digital identity.
People’s first impression tends to color how they view something. Fair or not, the first Mastodon instance you join tends to affect your view of the software, and the Fediverse as a whole.
If people tell you to join a social media website, and you get treated poorly when you join, why would you want to stay on that website’s social network?