• lemmylommy@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    New Star Trek manages to look dark even with tons of lights for the lensflares. Because nothing says „space“ and „modern“ like working in a dim, depressing space while simultaneously getting blinded by half a dozen lights strategically placed at eye height.

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      Oh don’t get me started on lensflares or motion blur. So many people think we need to keep them in order to know we’re watching a movie because “that’s how it’s always been”. I don’t get why limited technology of the past should be the standard. Should we go back to black and white only again? Why do we have sound? Never used to. You had an organist to tell you you’re in a movie.

      I always think about old school star wars for space. There is not a single doubt in my mind they’re in space during those fighter battles, but I can see everything without getting blinded or having to strain.

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        Motion blur is necessary for movies. They don’t run at 60fps, they run at 24fps. They would feel stuttery if they didn’t have motion blur. That’s why even computer animated movies have fake motion blur added to them.

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          Except they could run at 60+ fps. I watched The Hobbit in High Frame Rate and it was glorious. It didn’t take off because too many people complained of it not looking like a movie. The exact same complaints they had when movies switched to HD. Only this time the complaints sunk it for the most part instead of studios taking the time to adjust to new production methods. We get like one HFR movie a year now.

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              It’s more because there was no blur covering everything so you definitely saw some of the tricks they used. Saw it was just costumes and stuff.

              It wasn’t major or like in your face in my opinion but it was there, and people couldn’t accept a transition time as studios figured out how to make stuff look good at the higher frame rate. Better or different makeup or add more oomph to costumes or whatever.

              If you go and look at old forum comments about movies like, I want to say The Prestige (2006), some of the first ones to hit Blu-ray, they said similar stuff. The higher pixel counts revealed when rocks were fake and sets and stuff.

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          The issue is the fake CGI motion blur. It’s overdone. It’s not at all natural the way real motion blur on a film camera is.

          I blame the digital workflows where everything is shot in RAW at high shutter speed and then digitally motion blurred and colour graded all to crap. Watch old movies that were shot on film and they look a million times better than the brown haze we got with Dune.

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        Oh don’t get me started on lensflares or motion blur. So many people think we need to keep them in order to know we’re watching a movie because “that’s how it’s always been”.

        Motion blur only started cropping up in action movies in the 90s to hide bad choreography and lens flare is just something a few directors started doing in the 2000s. Tons of well lit and colorful movies have existed since movies started to be filmed in color and there are plenty without either of those two things.

        Anyone who thinks that is ‘how it has always been’ is extrapolating it from a few directors and their blockbuster movies.