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And is it social progress to you for a society to allow gay people to have civil rights?
social progress is relative to the social goals.
for a western society? yeah, for non-western societies? no.
the problem is everyone assumes ‘society’ must believe in the western ideals of individualistic freedom. there is no reason it must or should.
plenty of people have ideals that are not about freedom, they are about control. for those folks, gay civil rights are anti-progress.
“Local leftist decides that gay people shouldn’t have human rights because gay human rights don’t comport with the social progress related to non-western societies” is my favorite example of horseshoe theory in action. Please never break containment.