• Stop Forgetting It@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It was same company did the testing for Gemini, meta, Open AI and Anthropic. Are we sure this “cybersecurity” company that is doing all this testing that the AI keeps “hacking out of” isn’t really a PR company.

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    I get the feeling that this is now becoming the latest fad in LLM benchmarks. Forget coding or agentic stats. Just flex on how many times your not has “accidentally” hacked someone.

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    Aggressive dog owner lets dog run loose and reports dog attacks three different children. It was an accident though, so no biggie.

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    I don’t understand 1) why these ai companies keep reporting the incidents and 2) why they are allowed to keep running the models after an incident is reported. It seems the least they should be forced to do is air gap that bad boy until they can beat such shenanigans out of it. If a pet dog were to snap at a neighbor kid the police would shoot it, no questions asked.

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      It’s marketing. They want to prove that their models are capable and showing that they can hack is a good way to prove it

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        Honestly hacking is such a low bar and it always has been.

        There are some really intelligent and sophisticated hacks out there sure, but most companies can be penetrated by script kiddies & social engineering.

        “We slammed a language model at 3 companies and Burton entire rivers and Forrest worth of energy to do it and after using a bunch of premade human tooling it got in because joe left his password as “password1” and never set up second factor auth”

    • Random_Character_A@lemmy.world
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      To stay relevant.

      Our late stage capitalism investor market directs money flow to places where development is on upward trajectory and disappears very quickly from places that plateau. Eternal growth is impossible, but you can always bullshit your way forward, because in the end it’s about impressions.

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    Gemini can’t even install simple native Linux apps when I try to use it for help, how the fuck did it manage this?

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      You know how the legal definition of hacking in the USA includes using someone else’s login credentials, even if they just handed them to you on a sheet of paper? Maybe they just did that.

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      It didn’t, they are making shit up. If it did penetrate anything, I’m guessing it’s a really low level. Like it got access to someone’s email by brute force, but it brute forced something stupid like “Autumn2026!”.

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    When it ““happened”” to OpenAI i laughed a lot because they said that they “escaped contaiment” but either the machine was not disconnected from the internet or they are full of shit because AI cannot just materialize an internet connection, guess which one i picked

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    More evidence we are in the dumbest timeline, It should be simple to physically air gap a system (I mean that’s the default for any computer) but instead the method is apparently just to give a sternly worded prompt to the entity that doesn’t even understand the meaning of language in the way humans do

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    “society will come up with some guard rails”

    do your fucking job sam altman. or get sued into the ground you malfeasant worm.

  • Malica@lemmy.zip
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    This is akin to South Park’s “it’s coming right for us!” But with ai. I didn’t do it your honor, it was the ai!

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    So, like, if i do this, my IP is logged, cross referenced by my ISP, then the police come knocking at my door, as I have committed a felony (and probably a number of other violations along the way).

    Are these laws now invalid or what?

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      The law never applied to the Epstein class. The police is only there to protect their wealth.

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        In general, there is an entirely separate rule of law for businesses. That’s why regulations were created. Instead of holding a corporations decision makers and investors criminally liable with existing laws like fraud (“false advertising”, etc), or manslaughter (poisoning and killing their workers, customers, or environment), they created an entirely separate rule of law mostly based on laughable punitive damages with limits that don’t significantly impact investors. The entire system is geared to suppress, oppress, and exploit workers for profit.

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          But companies get treated like individuals when it comes to free speech and giving money to political campaigns.

          Seems like double dipping

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          Yet the people who support these laws are the first to scream, “corporations are people!” when it’s convenient.

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      The latest marketing campaign is just an evolution of the last one.

      “Our next model can code!”

      “Our next model makes coders obsolete!”

      “Our next model is super scary!”

      “Our next model is too good to release to the general public!”

      “Our next model is hacking websites!”