I just started running when it happened to me. Charges can’t catch you if you outrun the minor. In hindsight, it was the right move. I would not have communicated anything with any level of coherence in a state of dripping terror
I’ve read this 3 times and I still don’t understand how these 4 sentences are supposed to work together.
- A minor attempted to flirt with them, they literally ran away
- You can’t be charged with a crime if you do nothing wrong because you physically ran away and are faster than said minor
- Running away was the correct thing to do
- They were terrified (and sweaty) to the point where they were not capable of communicating coherently, and thus were not able to inform the minor that healthy adults would not be interested in their advances
Does that help explain it?
Full context in the spirit I meant it. Top marks
Working in academia I’ve had to explain to a lot of girls that older men flirting with them repeatedly isn’t a normal thing and they should 100% report them to the proper channels if they felt uncomfortable. It sucks that even when there’s any amount of support it’s still so poorly communicated.
One Punch Man tought us the perfect response to when a little girl approaches you.
I was 15. He was 22. He bought me take away food, alcohol and cigarettes for my company.
A decade later, he was my bosses boss. And harassed me at work.
He came from a wealthy family where he was the golden child, people around town know about his tastes but no one has come forward. His family are in denial.
Some people are just pure evil.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I hope you are in a better place now.
Did you not report him?
That is not a particularly helpful way to engage with someone explaining what someone put them through.
If she did it doesnt seem like it would have done much to someone in his position, and may have carried risk for her. She doesnt owe us an explanation of how she handled things, regardless of how she navigated it or how it went.
In general when someone is explaining how they were harmed its generally not helpful to intergogate whether they handled it “correctly”. Being a victim or being in a position in life where it is easier for you to be a victim rarely leaves you with many good options, or makes it easy to do things the “right” way
Good god this feels like the only place on the internet right now with decent, reasonable, human takes. Thanks for typing this
Thank you very much, I really appreciate that. I don’t always know the best way to approach things but I do my best to treat people with the same care I’d want from folks that I’m in community with
Imagine if none of the victims nor their families reported on the Epstein pedophile ring, he would still be on that island trafficking children for sexual abuse to high profile executives to this day. Reporting works and end up in investigations and charges.
Yes, sometimes it does, but seeing as how the Epstein victims paid an incredible price to come forward and still haven’t adequately received justice decades later, even after massive outrage over one of the most well publicized and egregious sexual abuse firestorms the country has literally ever seen, that always has to be victims choice.
When people are harmed by being denied agency, stepping in to demand what they should or shouldn’t do is wrong. They are not obligated to take risks to try and fix someone’s wrong behavior that harmed them.
If I am ever sexually abused I will be doing my best to report it, but this is not my sexual abuse, and it is not my choice how to handle it. Demanding things of victims is innapropriate.
Dating as a guy in your early 20s is a fucking minefield. Now that I’m 30 it’s better because nobody lies about being in their upper 20s or 30s, anyone who would be illegal is easy to spot because people under about 22 look like actual children to me now, and if absolutely needed it’s easy enough to just take any new dating prospect to a bar and let the bartender card them.
But back in my early 20s none of that was true. Half the women on dating apps were lying about their age. Judging age visually between about 16 and 20 can get really fuzzy. Also people who were 20 were still in my age range so taking them to a bar to get carded doesn’t work. Completely turned me off dating for a while.
Best thing, though unfortunately not quite possible, would be to check each other’s ID.
- You can be certain about each other’s age.
- Should they harm you, you now know who the other person is, and they get the same reassurance.
But that conversation wouldn’t work.
You can be certain about each other’s age.
…unless they have a fake ID. Which in turn is not in any way a defense should you perform certain acts with them that are illegal due to age. You’re just supposed to be able to sense the difference between someone slightly above and slightly below the line in your jurisdiction.
if absolutely needed it’s easy enough to just take any new dating prospect to a bar and let the bartender card them.
FYI this is not allowed to be used as a defense in court in some states (e.g. mine). If you card them and they have a fake ID, you’re still criminally culpable for anything untoward.
They break the law, they lie, and you get in trouble still?
Seriously, what’s the option - oh you look slightly young, let me see your birth certificate? Wait that might be a forgery, show me your driver’s license? Wait, that might be a forgery - show me an x-ray of your bones so I can analyze your growth plates.
Fucking hell
One of the many ridiculous laws implemented by performative GOP pearl-clutchers, half of whom are on the Epstein List.
Yeah that doesn’t sound right, even ethically.
If by your sincere knowledge you’re having a date with an adult, you shouldn’t get in trouble for anything
Ignorance or belief as to victim’s age no defense
When, in this chapter, the criminality of conduct depends upon the victim’s being below a certain specified age, ignorance of the age is no defense. Neither shall misrepresentation of age by such person nor a bona fide belief that such person is over the […]
Sure
That is still not right though. If someone looks and acts 18+ and has a fake ID saying they’re 18+ and they turn out yo be 16, well, there comes a point where you really handled in good faith. When good faith becomes punishable, were in bad territory
I agree with you but it seems several people here assumed I don’t.
Tan white people Twitter?
I’m a white person. And I’m reading the tweet, so it fits!
So just name it people twitter lmao
I had a similar experience with my first crush. He let me down easy and acted like my big brother. I hope he found happiness in life.
