• BladeFederation@piefed.social
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    25 days ago

    Depends on if you’re talking about actual woke, ironic woke, or Trump 2.0 era woke.

    Actual woke is opening your proverbial third eye to see what’s really going on around you, making you based.

    Ironic woke is jokingly calling someone/something woke that is clearly not woke, but think they are woke. In reality, the person being referenced is probably getting their opinions from the hive mind of public consensus like most people, but a different hive mind that makes them THINK they’re enlightened and woke.

    Trump 2.0 era woke is “anything the most diabolical far right supporter doesn’t like or makes them slightly uncomfortable” which is just about everything.

    Politically correct aligns closest to ironic woke because it relies on consensus on what is deemed “unprofessional” or “offensive”. It’s not inherently a bad thing though, generally it comes at least partially from a standpoint of wanting to express oneself in a constructive and respectful way, such as avoiding outdated terminology like “negro” or “retarded” which we should all do at this point despite them being the preferred politically correct term at one point. For this reason it ranks slightly higher on the morality scale than ironic woke, which is often motivated by acting morally superior and smug. But political correctness can go too far, and often leads to it being politically incorrect to criticize certain groups at all, which is not actual woke.

    Being actually woke is aware of REALITY, even if it is controversial to bring up certain things, and therefore ranks the highest.

    Trump 2.0 era woke is meaningless as a term, since Trump supporters have no sense of either reality or irony, and is thus impossible to rank.

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    25 days ago

    both have been cooped an kinda ironically. Woke means to realize the bs going around you or the real power brokers vs the story line. ie how corpos and the rich do things and try to frame it like a problem with poor people or immigrants. PC talk is about language being more important than reality. like insisting non christians say merry xmass instead of happy holidays or the like.

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    25 days ago

    Political correctness was about language and word choice, primarily aesthetics.

    Woke comes from the black community about being aware of root causes of various problems and particularly how those root causes relate to class, race, patriarchy, and other forms of systemic and systematized forms of manipulation by the elite against everyone else.

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    25 days ago

    They are the same thing. The name just has to update every now and then to stay trendy.

    The technical name: “Treating all people like they are people” isn’t real popular with bigots, so they come up with their own term, which they use mockingly to convince others that it’s bad to “Treat all people like they are people.”

    The topics change as the world progresses around them, but nonetheless they cling to any shred of difference they can find in people and vilify the “others”.

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    25 days ago

    I ain’t no chud or right wing Turdbag Fuckstain AI Bro. I’m just curious to see if people are in the wrong for calling those two the very same deal if they’re just two distinct ideologies