Just want to get some perspective on what people think of the American reaction. I’m NOT asking if it will happen. I’m asking what do you think Americans will do, if anything if this happens. Do you think people will just not care or protest on the streets?
Edit: What would your reaction would be? (even if not American)
Nothing, absolutely nothing. Just look at the state America is in now. Epstein island, Trump president and ICE to name a few. Nothing much is happening.
So why would this particular event change anything? I don’t think Americans will do anything unless their own country is in immediate threat of being nuked and then again, most probably will just shout in void on the internet.
I thought the point of this entire thing was Iran can’t have nukes. Now we drop it on them and give them a live demonstration?
I had said this about a year ago, but i strongly believe that one country (US, Russia, Israel, etc) will get a “one free nuke” pass. Way too much time has passed since WW2 and though people know what it does, the visceral feeling isn’t there.
The first one to drop one will receive a lot of condemnation, sanctions and hand wringing but that will be it. Now if a second one is dropped by any nation, that will most likely trigger an armed conflict.
But right now, countries have become too passive about physical action and would not know how to react.
As a American, we wouldnt even care. Maybe 2-3 days of news, maybe a few protests. But that’s it.
I’m being real.
We had a crazy person do a school shooting on a elementary school called Sandy Hook.
We had cops drop actual bombs on citizens in West Philadelphia.
Remember when America bombed that country and killed thousands of civilians? Are you going “which one”? Cambodia. Vietnam. Iraq. Iran. Hell, Iran’s bombing had literal school children.
We wouldn’t care.
The move bombing is a bad example given the fact they were in their second shootout with the police and had fortified the building specifically to repel the cops after making about a dozen credible bomb threats including fake bombs.
Yes the police over reacted but that situation was not entirely one sided like the rest of your examples.
The police never needed to be involved in the first place as far as Move goes. If they’d de-escalated it wouldn’t have been the problem they created. So it pretty much was one-sided.
They planted fake bombs and called in bomb threats an armed response is sensible.
Yes the police over reacted
an armed response is sensible.
Pick one.
Showing up armed and ready is distinctly different then continually escalating to a gunfight, a bombing and a subsequent fire they allowed to burn down a whole neighborhood, correct?
Stop being obtuse.
Obtuse? You describe what the police did, yet point the finger at Move? I’m not sure you know what “obtuse” means, you’re arguing in circles.
They admitted to building a self defined bunker with self defined gunports before the police were called but no no, clearly the people making and planting fake bombs had no reason for the police to show up.
There’s disliking police with good reason and there’s being a fucking absurdist you appear to be the latter.
Yes we would care. Wtf is wrong with you? It would be horrifying.
The same reaction when the US dropped non-nuclear bombs on Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Palestine, Afghanistan, Serbia, Bosnia… not only from this president. Americans don’t care about anything, they only care about money and how (dropping bombs on other people) will affect their income/taxes, nothing more. Non-Americans will protest (pro-Western people, whatever that means), some will call for a holy war against the devil-loving US, some will say nothing hoping they will be the next to do something similar (you know who), and the rest will simply be silenced.
If it means cheap gas, a few million will have to die.
The world will gasp and rend their garments. The usa will see this as winning a sports game of some sort.
Schumer will write a strongly worded memo complaining that it was just one nuke and not 50, and that the US must send monetary aid to Israel because they might get some radiation from our nukes. And, some rallies will be held in which ICE beats protesters en masse and kills a few. Same as always.
Mostly the same split on the war. What will change some pro war, or war tolerant, people’s opinions is direct consequences. Iran itself may be able to permanently destroy oil production/export capacity in region. Nazi empire colonies will continue their cowardice in pure demonic evil. But supposedly, China and Russia have set red lines including nuclear strikes on Israel, and sinking Navy. GCC colonies would likely break US alliance. These are the countries that help financialize US bubble the most. Their destruction/consequences alone would make them incapable of continuing to support US bubble.
Does $300 oil and a global economic depression cause people to pressure their countries/military establishement to coup Trump and Zionist supremacist supporters? Just because there has be some change in populist demonism for Israel, 50/50 on demonism towards China, the stupididity lock in for demonism against Russia and immigrants/races/personal freedom is divisive enough to be fatal.
It’s fair that global opinion of US would take a hit, as has Israel’s genocide on video over the last 2 years. But colonial rulerships need changing to cause change. The only difference between AfD and CDU is less suicidal demonism towards Russia.
I am shocked oil prices have remained so calm to this point. I don’t think Americans understand how serious this war is. The global depression is closer possibility every week this goes on. It’s Insanity and absolutely stupidity to be risking everything like this.
I used to make parts for the oil and gas industry. In one way, I know how serious this is.
Oil loading terminals and refineres do not work with shrapnel holes in them, they also don’t work when theyve been set on fire. Oil refineries are chock full of bespoke parts, some of which may take multiple years to replace. How much has been destroyed so far?
We are going to have to come to grips with the idea that oil doesn’t make sense anymore as a motor fuel. But that will be a lot smaller issue than the drop in fertilizer output.
They are actually very high, and going up $1-$2/bbl per day. Gasoline, jet fuel and diesel especially at extreme pricing, and housing prices now declining. Just continuing blockade leads to steady decline. Mutual destruction of $Bs of oil tankers accelerates global depression as capacity to ship oil around the world is part of oil dependence. Political movements against renewables no matter how high fuel gets is part of “democracy too dumb to function” incurable demonism.
But oil/fuel going up just a little every day gives a frog boiling effect. $10/day movements during first part of war made for shock effects and big headlines.
They’d vote Trump in for a third term.
There will be another toilet paper shortage, I can tell you that much
Pssst, murica already lost the war with Iran,
Not yet. This is not over until the US/world economy collapse or USA regains control of the strait. I agree with you that the war is lost, but Americans don’t know it yet because everything seems normal…
They know it, but refuse to see the truth.
You can’t blame them, it’s because of too many Hollywood movies
Dropping a nuclear bomb is essentially a world ending event at this point. Pakistan shares a border with Iran, they have nukes. China and Russia also have nukes.
I think the immediate reaction in the US will be of disgust and fear. I think most MAGA people would be against dropping a nuke.
I think most MAGA people would be against dropping a nuke.
And for the following 1-2 days that those dimwits are able to keep this in their head they would blame Trump. After that, they would go back to their lord and savior.
I think about 30% of the population would be exhilarated and rally around a false sense of righteous power. About 60% would be absolutely aghast and would make a lot of noise for a few weeks. Then they’d gradually settle into the comfort of being indignant without actually changing anything. After a while the American people would continue doing the same thing they’ve done for the last eight decades: inflicting violence on everyone for the enrichment of a few privileged oligarchs.
What about the last 10%? Unaware?
They might finally be able to point to Iran on a map. Might
USA: half “serves them right”, half “oh shit”
rest of the continent: “oh shit”
The majority of Americans have been unsupportive of the war in Iran, not just the left.
If you listen to them closely you’ll notice that that is the case because they are losing badly; because Trump is doing it wrong
Listen I’m in a Trump is doing it wrong camp but it’s the minority from what I know. A lot MAGA was very invested in the America First secceed from the world narrative and see involvement with Iran as a major betrayal. Still half ass suupporting Ukraine is a betrayal for them.
Let’s see if that’s true in 7 weeks. I would be surprised if anything changes.
Because their own material comfort might be negatively affected, not because of morality or humanity, lol. “Trump is an incompetent moron, gas is so expensive now!”