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I don’t believe it. Everything is used regardless of what they say.
They’ll just change the T&Cs later on to retrospectively allow use of the data again.
We promise to not use your data for AI if you press this button.
Terms of use.
We reserve the right to use data you enter to <long description of obvious necessary uses for the platform to work> and to help the platform. (Meaning we take ownership of the data)We will only use your data after it has been submitted, at which point it is now OUR data SUCKEERR. 🤣 🤡
aka “we have enough data”
There is no such thing as enough data, probably more that users are catching on and complaining.
The fact that users have been automatically opted in to this AI training for years is causing a lot of anger.
But it’s mostly a placebo button:
opting out will not prevent your data being used if you chat on someone else’s stream
You can say no, except not really.
If they wanted people to opt in, they could, I don’t know, offer to pay them instead of stealing. Its a wild concept I know.
Why would they do that if they can make more money the way they did it, while facing no consequences?
There’s a lot of shitting on twitch here, and rightfully so - but if you think YouTube, Kick, Rumble, Facebook, TikTok etc aren’t doing this, then they probably haven’t bulldozed a large portion of your town to build a data center yet
Just don’t use privately owned social media, guys. It is the same deceit and profeteering over and over and over again.
I don’t know why streamers still use Twitch. It’s got an absolutely toxic amount of ads. Unwatchable unless you’re paying a lot of money monthly.
The pay. They make more (especially on a donation model) because they get to keep more of what people donate to them. YouTube takes like 30%, and I think Twitch is lower (5%?).
I hear that the discoverability is terrible on Twitch but I’m not a streamer, so what do I know.
Where are you getting 5% from? For one, Twitch doesn’t have donations. They have subs and bits. Subs start at 50/501, and go to 70/30 if are a larger streamer2. Bits are harder to find info on, but supposedly 1 bit = 1 cent, but the purchase price is higher so if you look at the raw purchase price of 100 bits = $1.40USD then Twitch is taking a ~30% cut.
I used to see a lot of streamers go through third-party sites which have lower cuts, and presumably that is still a popular route. But these have little to do with Twitch and as far as I know you can do this on YouTube as well.
Twitch doesn’t have donations built into their platform (but you can absolutely donate bits which can be converted into cash). 5% is a me questioning the amount they take from donations of Bits, that’s why there’s question mark next to it. I don’t remember the exact amount but I do know that it’s less than YouTube, and that YouTube takes approximately 30%. I was hoping someone would correct me if I was wrong.
To purchase bits Twitch takes a cut. But when you donate bits to a streamer thats not the same as charging the customer who purchased the bits 30%.
Additionally though, some streamers use Kofi or other platforms like stream elements to get donations from their viewers, so there’s that too.
You kinda answered your own question there. Never get why people watch streams on there though. (Except its some kind of planned event. )