Firefox says it will keep supporting uBlock Origin even as Microsoft Edge and other Chromium browsers phase it out under Manifest V3.

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      2 days ago

      only ads on big sites or ads by big providers are blocked. cookie prompts and other annoyances much less, because there is a great variety of them. data mining and hardware fingerprinting cannot even be thwarted anymore.

      sure, if you only care about ads, but not at all about your privacy, it does not mean much to you. personally I would rather see ads (topic based) than give up my privacy, and the complete uBlock Origin is very useful for privacy too.

      • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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        2 days ago

        only ads on big sites or ads by big providers are blocked

        This is false.

        cookie prompts

        Not part of any adblocker. Some, like Ghostery, have a separate mechanism to auto-reject these. I switched from uBO to Ghostery because uBO wasn’t doing anything against those.

        data mining and hardware fingerprinting cannot even be thwarted anymore.

        That’s not an adblock feature and there are hundreds of other extensions that handle that, like PrivacyBadger. Ghostery says it also handles trackers, but I haven’t verified that.

        I would rather see ads (topic based) than give up my privacy, and the complete uBlock Origin is very useful for privacy too.

        Look up tools made specifically for it, then. Also: privacy related stuff is not affected by Manifest v3, no?

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          1 day ago

          Not part of any adblocker. Some, like Ghostery, have a separate mechanism to auto-reject these. I switched from uBO to Ghostery because uBO wasn’t doing anything against those.

          this is false. and instead of just claiming so, here is proof: there are built-in (but disabled by default) blocklists specialized for cookie prompts and such

          That’s not an adblock feature

          and as I said, uBO is not just an ad blocker, so saying xy ad blocker can replace it well is false.

          and there are hundreds of other extensions that handle that, like PrivacyBadger

          except that not really. Because again, the required browser APIs were removed, and even before that, privacy badger was not so effective

          Also: privacy related stuff is not affected by Manifest v3, no?

          everything is effected that:

          • needs to block network requests, including loading of certain site scripts
          • depends on an up to date list of things to block
          • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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            13 hours ago

            this is false. and instead of just claiming so, here is proof: there are built-in (but disabled by default) blocklists specialized for cookie prompts and such

            Let me rephrase then: cookie prompt blocking capabilities are not tied to the Manifest version (clearly, as exemplified by things like Ghostery). uBO could easily switch to Mv3 and still do those things.

            and as I said, uBO is not just an ad blocker, so saying xy ad blocker can replace it well is false.

            But we’re discussing the ad-blocking features, because these are the ones affected by Mv3, no?

            All these other features exist and are perfectly fine in other extensions.

            except that not really. Because again, the required browser APIs were removed, and even before that, privacy badger was not so effective

            Define “not so effective”. What’s “effectiveness” in this case?

            everything is effected that:

            • needs to block network requests, including loading of certain site scripts
            • depends on an up to date list of things to block

            OK, but again: what’s the difference for the end-user? Does it impact resources utilisation? Website loading times? Reactivity? I don’t see a difference in how my uBO browser behaves vs how my Ghostery browser behaves, so what am I losing because of the Mv3 switch?

      • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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        2 days ago

        Well, considering I’m using a different adblock and I just… Do not see any ads on the web, how do you measure the efficiency of uBlock to be better? Resource consumption?