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Firefox says it will keep supporting uBlock Origin even as Microsoft Edge and other Chromium browsers phase it out under Manifest V3.
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I can’t imagine using the web without firefox and ublock. Even the cookie consent popups are awful.
Seriously. I clear my cookies on Firefox exit because I don’t want their shit on my computer if it isn’t needed.
This would cause me to see them every single damn time.
Yeah, the user experience of “just wipe cookies on browser exit” is a lot better than “have a million prompts all over zillions of sites”.
However, regarding “every single damn time”…some sites can have their “do you want cookies” popup just blocked by the Firefox I still don’t care about cookies addon. It’s not a solution for every site out there, but it’ll get a lot of them.
It’s also possible to use another extension, Behind the Overlay on some sites. This does require a click, so manual action, but it tries to identify “pop-over” content that covers up the browser window and remove it with that click. It’s really intended as a more-general solution to “pop-over” stuff, but cookie pop-ups often take this form and can be dismissed.
You can also just enable one of the “Cookie notices” lists in your ublock settings, no need for another extension.
have a million prompts all over zillions of sites”.
I’m using Ghostery to automatically reject all of those. They pop-in and almost immediately disappear.
Ghostery blocks trackers then sells data about your tracking blocking habits. It was the first tracker blocker I heard of but Privacy Badger is the better one nowadays.
Not true since 2017 (and even before that it was kinda’ disputed). The adblock part of the business went to Cliqz, a German privacy-focused browser, backed by Mozilla.
I have downvoted your comment because it’s repeating a popular myth, nothing against you personally.
I recommend using the extensions Containers and “temporary containers” instead. This way you can keep cookies for specific containers / websites but all the other cookies get deleted.
LibreWolf, WaterFox and Vivaldi
vivaldi recently disabled uBO and said it’d soon be unsupported. you can re-enable for now
I was using vivaldi and they were kind enough(seriously) to inform me that they don’t support ublock anymore maybe a week ago.
Not sure about the reason but I think that it’s a technical thing the Google changed to deliberately make it easy to end ublock on a lot of browsers. Might not be the only reason(actual tech upgrades) but I believe it’s part of the reason since major conspiracies seem much more likely these days.
Anyway, I switched back to Librewolf even though it can’t play x.265 files (jellyfin). Anything that kills the use of ublock is dead to me even though they have their own shitty, bullshit blocking solution. It’s never going to be as good as ublock edit grammar and shit
Anyway, I switched back to Librewolf even though it can’t play x.265 files (jellyfin).
you should check that again, Firefox gained support for it last year.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Media/Guides/Formats/Video_codecs#hevc_h.265
check the browser compatibility column in the table. it seems maybe Firefox is the only one supporting it even for those without hardware acceleration?
Admittedly, I haven’t tried too hard to get it working in any of the FF browsers lately…my unraid server blew up and it was handling hardware acceleration with a cheap intel vid card. I haven’t felt like messing with until now so I’ll give it a shot. Thanks for the info
edit: no transcoding when l tried a x.265 in regular firefox. sweet
…may you elaborate?
LibreWolf has it pre-installed and is Open-source. It worked on waterfox an Open-source fork of Firefox, last time I tried.
As for Vivaldi I guess use Brave instead.
Brave is the money generator of a far right hate group. Fuck Brendan Eich, fuck their ad replacement scam, fuck everything Brave.
Really??? I had no clue!!!
I just got back into being into the open source life after going back to Ubuntu after almost 20 years later. I stopped using Ubuntu in 2009 when Pigeon was an aio instant messenger client.
… Well shit. Yeah fuck that guy.
And Brave, don’t forget brave
No, you should forget brave it’s yet another piece of shit chrome knock off. Just like the rest. It ain’t immune. It can kick and scream but either the entire project dies or they bend the knee eventually.
Not to defend Brave (seriously, don’t use Brave), but it has built-in ad-blocking.
As long as chromium is open source I see no problem down the line… and if Google one day stops the funding of open source projects, well, the Firefox is also toast
Ublock Lite still works in Chrome (and it still blocks YouTube ads, not sure about cookie popups), but you get no control over the filters. Just a slider with some presets to choose from. So while better than nothing, just stick with Firefox.
Now that MV2 is dead in chrome, i wouldn’t bet on YouTube ads being able to be blocked by UBlock Lite for much longer.
Pretty sure full ublock origin still works in helium no?
Pretty sure I’ve read months ago that the maintainers said they’ll try to support it as long as possible but at the moment v2 support is removed from the source code, they’ll won’t have the resources to add it back again.
If they ever stop supporting it I will continue to use the last version to support it, any website that breaks compatibility with this Firefox version can get fucked.
That’s a significant security risk, unfortunately.
If that happens, I’d suggest a fork with a built in blocker, one that still gets security patches from upstream Firefox.
Exactly. Ublock origin is notable only for being part of 0 ad companies and 100% trustworthy. The blocking lists are universal. If it’s built into the browser, you’re golden
Well…
With a fork, one is very dependent on the browser dev. Not just on their benevolence, but on their security practices too. And on them pulling in upstream security patches, quickly.
TBH, this is why I do finance stuff on vanilla Firefox. I love browser forks, I really do, but I’m a bit more cautious with them, too.
The most used forks are usually larger teams tbf, not a single dev
True, sometimes. But they don’t have the sheer manpower dedicated to security that Mozilla has, nor the institutional policies that try to mitigate losing a key/account or something like that. Also, technically, vanilla Firefox is first to get the zero-day patches before they filter downstream.
Not that the forks are dangerous or anything, generally.
i mean… blocking lists are universal, but the other features ublock offers are not - i’m making heavy use of ublock’s dynamic filtering panel and per-site switches. one important thing i use ublock for is to whitelist which sites get javascript permissions and to get rid of remote fonts to make pages more readable. those features need manifest v2.
if firefox drops manifest v2 and you’re relying purely on those inbuilt blocking lists then you might as well use the manifest v3 version of ublock without seeing a difference, right?
if firefox drops manifest v2
I think they said they will go out of their way to keep the extension APIs in Mv3 that uBlock needs
you might as well use the manifest v3 version of ublock without seeing a difference, right?
Can confirm, I was thinking about switching off of Chrome due to this but since I don’t use the custom stuff (much) I’m not noticing a difference with the v3 compatible “light” version of uBlock Origin.
I’ll just spend my reading time reading more books than I do now. Forcing me to look at ads will not work.
wait for 4g books that serve you unskippable ads
Librewolf would probably still support it
librewolf does not have much developer capacity to maintain such heavy patches. you may remember some chromium forks telling they will maintain a patch when google completely removes this API from chromium, but it seems none of them will follow through. I can’t really fault them because it is likely a gargantuan task. but I’ll fault them for claiming something they (should) have known they can’t deliver. but my point is if vivaldi and others can’t keep it, how could librewolf?
I’d probably go retro, use something like Dillo and stick to more classic webpages. Or go full Gopher/Gemini.
as a websev, you’re gonna have a bad time
If it goes… I don’t know what I’ll do.
Go out and touch grass probably.
Get a hobby.
Perfect my molotov recipe.
air/land/sea drones for ordnance delivery
Yes, and “ordnance”! “Ordinance” is like a municipal law, “ordnance” is explosives. Not trying to be pedantic, trying to inform. Slava Ukraini, by the way. <3
never knew they were two words. thaanks
Come on, the meme format requires you to put another normal sentence at the end right after the provocative one lol.
I meant… Robot molotov. With AI. And cloud. And blockchain integration.
I don’t know what I’m doing I hope that will suffice.
Wait what meme format.
I’m just messing around. I was thinking of a 4-panel comic in which a person does chores, like vacuuming, handling laundry, and the 2nd-to-last panel is something like, “Dread one’s short existence,” before finishing with another humdrum task in the style of the other panels. I can’t find the comic despite trying, unfortunately!
Hahaha, ok you’re referencing a comic? I was kinda nonplussed. I also mess around constantly so that’s cool! :)
I don’t know that one tho.
I found it! It’s 6 panels, not 4: https://jptds.blogspot.com/2016/04/dont-let-existential-dread-set-in.html
I, too, respond to comments several weeks later. TWO CAN PLAY THIS GAME.
No but seriously, the inbox notifications scare me. I go through them once a month and answer to all three hundred comments in one sitting, it works for me, OK?
Edit: hahahaha! great comic! :)
Sometimes I think it was a mistake to let the programs we primarily use to view text and images become bloated virtual machines that execute megabytes of arbitrary code with every page load.
Well, like many other things: it’s not so much a “we” as it is a “them”.
But maybe we should reboot the whole navigation thing?
Cool, but why did they have to name it that?
It came before bard was renamed to gemini. Kind of like people who were referred to as Isis before you know, Isis.
Oh. I don’t get your example, by the way (who those original “people” were).
Some people knew people named Isis bro. I did.
Hmm, interesting. That makes me think of someone whose last name was literally “Gay” before gayness as a news headliner broke out, I think right around the turn of the century. Her family changed their name to “Gray” as a result.
I wonder if a name change might have been or even might be helpful for that person you know.
I was on dial-up internet well after most people had moved to dedicate higher speed connections. It was very obvious then that websites were just piling more crap in and I was thinking about how much of a problem that trend was going to be for our hardware. That wasn’t even considering how much those companies would be dipping into our time, sanity, and privacy.
I still design my personal web pages like we’re in the modem days. Mostly text, and the images are highly compressed jpegs with tons of artifacting. No javascript. It’s a lot of fun
Alternate headline: Firefox is now the only browser worth using.
And in any case, lumping Firefox as one browser is disingenuous. There are numerous Firefox forks, just like every other major browser is in fact a Google Chromium fork.
it still boggles my mind that Microsoft developed Edge as a standalone browser as a replacement for IE then just said “nah, let’s just use Chromium.”
In the future it will probably come out there was a massive backroom deal. Neither this nor dropping Windows Phone have made any sense.
The best extension :)
+ a mediocre browser
No, you’re a mediocre browser
And his mom is too
Can confirm; Dan’s mom = very mediocre. Not worth the journey to her house 3/10.
this is legit one of the funniest comebacks
What is mediocre about it? What would be an example of a good browser, and what are the differences?
Nothing is mediocre about it. All of the “best” browsers are based on FF’s Gecko engine. Maybe they have complaints about Mozilla or the weird stuff they’ve been doing with FF recently. But the actual Gecko engine is solid, and it’s what all the best browsers are based on.
Don’t feed the troll, down vote and move on
im an old web dev and im stuck in my shitty ways which includes not liking how ff is the only effing browser that takes extra effort to make the front-end look and function correctly. tbh, i do use ff on android 99% of the time, but ff on desktop breaks too many sites if you have any inkling of ff’s security turned on.
im not wrong, you all are just fanboys
Why?
It’s bait. The only “better” browsers are downstreams of FF.
complaints not parsed into action items aren’t worth anyone’s time.
you assume im here to enrich your online experience. im not. parse your own shit
3 days later and that’s all you’ve got? No wit in that staircase. The only time you’re worth is the catharsis in telling you to kick rocks; so kick rocks.
Yes, 3 days later because I’m not terminally online like you
yeah no you’re still not worth my time. time to block your little wet fart of an existence. byeeeeeeeee
No, you’re a towel
Happy with Librewolf. I can’t imagine using my browser everyday if I don’t have a good adblocker on it like uBO.
Google is locking down Android too!
Future is dark:
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Android getting locked down
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They are asking your government ID to use OS, access internet etc.
There must be real protest, revolution, something otherwise it will just get worst
pssst: it’s gonna get worse
Download a shitload of epubs, roms, backup of wikipedia, and get ready for full-on, unmissable, 1984-style marketing and propaganda culture. You’ll see it, you’ll have to see it, and there will be no option B.
I am not sure what your comments mean. I am in tremendous back pain. And didn’t sleep For so long, and the fucking humidity.
I want to add more. And vent.
I am old enough and I saw similar actions, and the out come of it.
Slwoly we are forced to use ESIMS, where I live, I have to pay every time I switch phones.
And if I am outside of the country, I can’t even switch phones.
I love the idea of esims, but not how it is implemented.
Digiral data produced by me is so.expensive to keep.
It is the digital age, but not a digital .storage age, it is cheaper to print shit.
Optical storage can store terabytes of data, easy to maintain, you can design a device where the hdd store meta data and anyone from your family cam access the data stored on archival optical drives.
It is not built because they want us to use the cloud. Maybe it is greed, control, surveillance.
I just want a simple cartridge that can store my data for decads and technologically that is easily done. There are already archival optical storage sold to data centers, but why not to small businesses or consumers!?!?
It is basically several bluray discs in a cartridge.
The future is dark because of human nature.
And we will do nothing about because look at state of printers. The ink cost more than gold per gram
Look at air purifiers all proprietary filters that are over priced
And yes I know about CR boxes but those furnace filters are only sold in USA.
We are not good creatures
Sorry, I am coherent enough to know I am not coherent, I needed to vent.
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It’s not ready yet but there’s the ladybird project that has a lot of promise. I appreciate FF a lot but their code base is a mess, they need a modern rewrite of their browser engine. That’s why we’re getting all these chromium based browsers, it’s just a better base to build off of.
From their own monthly updates where they compared their progress with other browsers Servo also seemed to be coming along nicely, although for now it seems to be just a browser engine and not an actual browser.
Sooner is better then latter because they’re already losing the adoption war. An internet where web developers write their sites for chromium specifically is a bad situation and it’s happening slowly. FF needs more adoption and spins who can fit niches they don’t. FF spins just haven’t been as successful as chromium spins so far. Like waterfox vs brave.
First IronFox, then LibreWolf and now ladybird… a definitive alternative to FF for at least 5 years would be nice…
I’m not saying taking gecko and modifying it is impossible, just far less pleasant than taking blink/V8. Ladybird is interesting because it’s a completely independent project from chromium or FF with some really nice ideas. I hope to see it succeed but seems to be moving a little too slowly as a project to be a serious contender. That’s all to say it’s far easier to make chromium based browsers than FF based browsers. FF has needed a rewrite for like a decade already.
I tried browsing the internet without uBlock Origin. I hated it in 5 minutes. I’m not going back to there anytime again. If your browser does not support uBlock Origin, then I am not using it.
Right? I just set up a new phone and had Firefox installed but no extensions yet. Had to search something and the website I ended up on was plastered in ads. Is this how some people actually live? I closed the site and installed uBlock Origin and then went back to the same site. Holy shit, night and day difference.
I.e. it is the last usable browser.
IE was the first unusable browser
Like a true google hate inspired hipster I have been using Firefox for at least the past 9 years. Don’t let one of the shittiest companies control even more of the world because you are too fucking lazy to switch to a different browser. If you have to deal with a few shitty websites made by morons that only work in chrome keep a secondary chromium install on standby when you have to hold your nose and use it.
Honestly I can only think of one. Weirdly a “developer platform”
Well I guess a couple more because keyboard firmware sites do that usb browser thing that terrifies me is a thing and only chrome supports.
I have been a web dev for over 25… oh god… approaching 30 years, and most web dev teams with an ounce of self respect will spend the honestly trivial time to test against different browsers. I consider it a basic part of the god damn job. Even still banks and government sites seem to not give a fuck.
Firefox recently grew that terrifying WebSerial USB thing!
In unrelated news, Firefox is now the dominant browser and nobody knows why.
If only that were true. To many people are addicted to google to ever give up chrome/chromium without a series of catastrophic fuckups from google.
Doesn’t help that Mozilla leadership is incompetent and doesn’t know what their core audience wants
Unfortunate how momentum like that works. I haven’t managed to degoogle myself yet but switching to firefox has created zero issues in my daily usage
Dude, the last thing I use Google for is YouTube and the ads are so much now on my tv and when listening to stories in my car that I’m seriously considering either paying for nebula or just snorting whatever I find under the sink for amusement.
uBlock origin works on YouTube and works in Firefox for Android
Yes but I can’t install that on an appleTV or mess with it while driving so there are times I still encounter the bad.
You already made the choice to use appletv
i forget what its called… pihole? You can set up a small box on your network that can filter out ads on devices that you cant install adblocking on, like on your TV and stuff.
Pihike adblocker doesn’t work for streams, just static content.
does not work for youtube. for that, you need either a third party youtube app with builtbin blocking, or a patched official app that adds the blocking.
Or just open the Firefox website in the browser
I guess you meant the youtube website, but on a TV you won’t be able to block youtube ads in the browser either
I don’t use the smart TV functions, I connect a device to the TV to watch stuff on the TV. I certainly don’t use any apps to watch YouTube
Being unable to use manifest v2 extensions anymore on most chromium based stuff has resulted in me writing off almost all browsers that are base on chromium. Kudos to Firefox for continuing to support it! Let’s hope that does not change at all anytime soon.