Codeberg seems to ban vibecoded Projects; reason might be german copyright law
>It looks like Codeberg want only copyrighted material in their service, so it is reliable in the future that e.g. licenses must be followed (e.g. GPL), and copyright doesn’t suddenly get declared as being of the model owner, and it isn’t a copy of something else.
That is a cautious reasonable position - in early days of LLM coding (3 years ago!) indemnity from model companies was a major issue globally because of the lack of clarity of the law around this. The US specifically has settled on it being (effectively?) public domain. But I don’t think that is fully settled, and it certainly isn’t settled in international copyright law.
The goal of the vague “mostly” in the Codeberg change is to ensure there is enough human input to the code they host, to be reasonably sure under German copyright law it is copyright of the person sharing it.
edit: link to poll that caused it (might be down due to high traffic) https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434
edit 1: i dont defend/oppose this move, i just find it interesting
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Those comments on HN are hilarious 😅 That site really works as a parody of bad tech bro takes if you ignore that most of them are sadly dead serious.
Huh. I mostly read people moralizing the use of AI and wanting to slap a scarlet AI on anyone who uses it while derisively using the terms “slop” and “vibe” to poison the well.
Huh. I mostly read the use of “slop” and “vibe” to be fair depictions
Except when you can’t discern the difference between hand crafted and AI-generated, but they insist on calling it slop. Then it loses all meaning, and becomes clear it’s just antagonistic slang used by the prejudiced. Same with vibe, when they use it to mean any use of AI in coding.
In other words, there is slop and there are vibe coded projects, but the most offensive use those terms universally simply to be derogative and incendiary.
I’m not sure anyone is insisting on calling things slop which cannot be discerned isn’t human-written. Like another commenter pointed out, it’s the obvious-slop that is the subject of ire.
Looks like the bad HN commenter takes are leaking 😑
Same here. I think Lemmy is the den of vipers when it comes to hate and prejudice of AI.
I use AI a little here and there, and want it not to be the evil that it is. But it fuckin’ is. It’s going to cause so many problems and it uses tons of electricity. Worst thing for the environment since cars. And even if you ignore all of that, it just plain makes so many mistakes that even ignoring the societal implications… it’s lacking at best.
I used to think like you (seem to), until I started noticing just how oblivious everyone is to the downsides. Actually seems like a good thing to have some people “overreacting” imo. It’s better than billions underreacting. Ignoring everything else, what are we going to do as a society when 60% of jobs go away? You imagine it will be an easy fight getting a universal basic income or some form of socialist policy? I think millions are going to die during that fight, very much best case scenario. This is going to disrupt society in so many bad ways that it’s hard to even anticipate.
This is just to let their prejudice flag fly. There’s no way to actually tell AI was used if the planning and assisting meta-data files aren’t committed to the repo. Nothing has truly changed. They might as well ban anyone who thinks about the color pink more then twice per day - it would be just as easy to enforce.
You might not be able to tell, but the signs something is LLM generated are pretty obvious to more experienced programmers.
That, plus, it’s driving away vibe coders just because they don’t want to be there. The rule doesn’t have to be enforceable 100% in order to be effective.
Yeah, just like more experienced artists can see the AI generated pixels.
Are you trying to make some point? Because, yes they can.
Yes, I am. I have a global pre-processor directive for all of my prompts, so it always includes “match existing code style, formatting and conventions.” The result is indistinguishable from hand written code. Thinking you can magically discern what was written by AI is delusional.
Sorry but you are clearly delusional. There is no magic involved, just being able to look at the structure of the code and the pattern of the commits. It’s fairly easy in fact.