Seriously, who needs to record someone without the knowledge of the person being recorded? That’s a big red flag, a perverted character, there’s no other explanation. Creepy Mark Zuckerberg allowed other creepy characters to share personal moments with him.

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    Back when wearables were new, I contemplated getting one for face recognition. Not for creepy reasons, but because I am “faceblind”, and recognizing people I should know and getting a name for them would be extremely helpful.

    And no, I would not use meta glasses for that, first, because they from Zuck, and second, because the control of this are out of my hand. The system I wanted back then only had local processing, and no data hoarding.

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    I personally think there’s a separate discussion to be had, between

    “Who would use glasses embedded camera tech.”

    Vs.

    “Who would use Facebook glasses .”

    It’s the same as XR tech. Can it potentially be very cool? Sure!

    But in the hands of one of the most evil and soulless corporations this side of hell? They offer a touch of novelty to some users in exchange for that user ultimately being exploited and used for unconsenting intelligence gathering on behalf of Facebook and whomever it has clandestine deals with.

    Otherwise in the case of these glasses, they don’t need to be a commercial success: They’ve got people doing terrible and stupid things. Which gets people talking. Which trends. Which maek stonk go ups.

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    I got a pair of them a little over a year ago for filming myself skateboarding when the homies aren’t around to help film. It’s cool to see from a first person perspective but the novelty kinda wore off and I rarely use them now. I occasionally bring them out on nature tours to film cool shots of swimming in natural pools right up to waterfalls. I’ve found the best use cases are when being hands-free is important for the shot. I don’t like wearing them in public places unless I forget my other sunglasses. The hands-free audio for phone calls is kinda cool, oh!! I’ve also done a video chat with my SO while going through her boxes in a storage unit on the other side of the country so she could tell me what to bring home. That was super helpful actually. But yeah, overall they are definitely going to be misused in awful ways by creeps a whole lot more than they’ll get used for useful stuff like this so I am not advocating for their existence. Much like AI, people simply can’t be trusted with having this tech.

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    Honestly, I have no problem with personal surveillance (sousveillance). It’s a shame that companies like Meta made it weird.

    I wear secret cameras when I go to protests, for example, because I want to make sure to capture police misconduct without running around with a phone in my hand.

    Thanks to Meta, now I have to hide this from everyone, because people like you will assume I’m a pervert.

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    People that regularly have their rights violated by the police and need to record all their interactions

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    When I was a teenager, I read the Ender series by Orson Scott Card. In one of the sequels, you meet a character named Olhado, who didn’t have functioning natural eyes and had to have a synthetic alternative implanted to be able to see. The implant included a recording device, and this was touted as being useful for settling disputes.

    The desire for minimalist recording devices could come from a place of innocence, even a penchant for justice. But of course anyone being able to get them is problematic, with the prevalence of those inclined to disregard consent.

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    Last year at this event organized by a friend we were sat at the table along some radio and tv personalities, not famous, but clearly managing a step up in income than the rest.

    Right from the start one of them started to show off his new Ray-Bans that recorded video. Common among rich people to brag about something expensive…

    My wife asked, what are you recording? he answered without shame… “I’ve been recording everyone and nobody knew” with a grin on his face.

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      Did he modify them so that the giant recording LED didn’t work, or did they not know what it meant?

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        I don’t know, but I wasn’t aware of any recording light at the time. Or it didn’t catch my attention. I’ll ask my wife if she remembers…

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    When I first heard about them, I thought they sounded useful. I’m a photographer, and one of the challenges is not always having a camera handy when you need it, so the idea of a readily available camera for taking photos of birds, sunsets, landscapes etc, and the ability to use them as ear phones etc sounded kinda neat. I spoke to some vision impaired folk at my local parkrun who use them to help identify what they’re looking at, or read things they can’t read etc. This was in the early days, when I was still a bit naive about where they would go. To me, they sounded like nifty technology.

    And then Meta cranked up the creepy spy factor, and people started doing really creepy things with them.

    It shouldn’t have surprised me, but it did…

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    I have a friend who is absolutely obsessed with roller coasters, but many parks don’t allow you to wear a body camera (to say nothing of phones, you’re absolutely not allowed to hold a recording device). Like, this guy will ride the same coaster back to back for hours and will absolutely watch a recording. He bought a pair for this one purpose. I would not have bought them and he definitely felt extremely conflicted. I think he keeps them in a case at all times and only wears them when he’s about to get on a ride.

    Basically, he only bought them as an action camera alternative. He doesn’t use any of their creepy social media features.

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      But you do understand how this perfectly illustrates the point that these allow people to skirt the rules where filming isn’t allowed right? Your buddy is into coasters, cool, but the story only highlights why they’re problematic

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        Except that the intent isn’t to remove the ability to film but to remove the risk of debris falling off riders. If the theme park really cared about filming, they probably could ban the glasses as well since they would be caught during the metal detection.

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    I would love to have properly working glasses with subtitles+translation and maps/navigation built-in.

    I couldn’t care less about video recording, that shit’s creepy.

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      Those kinda exist already. Even Realities G2s, for example: no cameras, built in subtitles and live translation and navigation on a discrete minimal display, open source SDK. Expensive and not quite mature, but that’s a perfectly defensible device to be wearing IMO (they do have microphones. So does your phone)

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    In Germany they’re called “Spannergläser” that translates to “peeping Tom’s glasses”. Heard that term after the first guys tried to wear and use them around public pool areas.

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    Seriously, who needs to record someone without the knowledge of the person being recorded?

    Spies and influencers who want to record in places that don’t allow recordings come to mind. Like, besides your pervert case.

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      Spies

      Pretty sure any spy worth their salary won’t use the most instantly recognisable “covert” recording device in the world…

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    Going back a couple generations of this tech, I was a little excited about Google glass back in the day.

    And to be clear, I don’t have, want, or like meta glasses or any of the other products out there right now. I don’t trust the companies behind them, I don’t like the people who have them, there’s enormous privacy issues with them, and they’re pretty much totally tied to AI at this point and I don’t think I need to get up on a soap box to explain why that’s a problem on Lemmy.

    But if all of those issues were somehow solved, I could see them being pretty damn useful.

    Part of what I liked about them was that they were obviously not just regular glasses. Not that every passerby is scrutinizing what the people around them are wearing on their face, but they weren’t pretending to be anything they weren’t.

    I think they could be useful for capturing pictures and video of things in the moment. I recently went on a trip to Iceland and saw some geysers. I wanted to get a picture of them erupting but that meant I had to stand around holding up my phone for like 5 minutes because you don’t know exactly when it’s going to erupt, and that did take me out of the moment a bit. Would’ve been kind of nice to just set my glasses to record as I stood there watching and waiting.

    When I can, I try to get around on foot. Having some sort of HUD to display directions and such would be pretty nice for that instead of constantly having to pull out my phone. Having directions in your earbuds works pretty well in most cases, but does somewhat impair your ability to hear what’s going on around you. Also, in cases like when I was in Iceland, my ears aren’t exactly used to hearing icelandic words, and it kind of seemed like Google’s text to speech isn’t quite up to it either, because it seemed to skip a lot of street names and just said “turn left” making me have to look at my phone to see which specific road I was supposed to be turning at. But even when it did attempt to pronounce the names, most of them sound like gobbledegook to me, and I wouldn’t necessarily be able to match what I heard up to a street sign.

    Similarly, I had to pull out my phone to translate more than a few signs, menus, etc. while I was there. Being able to just look at the sign and have a translation pop up in the corner of my vision or overlaid on top of the icelandic words would have been nice.

    There is no way to do this in a way that wouldn’t be horrifyingly invasive and disrespectful of other people’s privacy, but if there were, I’m pretty terrible with names, and being able to have a pop-up with name tags or something would be nice in a lot of social situations.

    I have a pretty small house where storage and workspace is at a premium, and I can be a bit scatterbrained and disorganized. I often find myself working on my hobbies at a small, cluttered workbench with several in-progress projects scattered about. Having the camera rolling while I do that might be useful for me, so I can rewind and see where the hell I put that screwdriver down, I just had it 2 minutes ago and now it’s vanished into thin air.

    Similarly, I like to cook, and I tend to wing it a lot, I’m not following recipes too closely, I taste, adjust and improvise as I go, and I’m certainly not writing my recipes down while I’m doing it. And not to toot my own horn, but I’m a pretty good cook, people tend to really like what I make and often ask me for recipes. Being able to go back and review the video of what I did would be pretty handy for when I actually do want to write one of those recipes down, and I could share some of the video to show exactly what I did for some more complicated steps.

    And in cases where I am referencing a recipe or tutorial or whatever while I’m working on something, again, workspace is a valuable commodity in my house. I would rather not have some of it taken up by my phone if I can avoid it. If I’m moving between different areas, like from the counter to the stove, or from the bathroom where I’m working on something to the basement where the water shut off and circuit breaker is, or maybe I have my hands full, or I’m up on a ladder, or maybe my hands are dirty and I don’t want to touch my phone, or maybe I don’t want to be touching my phone while I’m cooking because phones are pretty gross, etc. it could be nice to just have the instructions or or video right there in my glasses.

    If the cameras are good enough, they might also be able to take the place of the head mounted magnifier I sometimes use while working on small things, I could just zoom in with the camera.

    I used to work in a warehouse, we had rows and rows of racks full of pallets with boxes on them. When we were filling orders, we sometimes only needed one or two things out of a box, and so every time we pulled something out we’d have to print out a new label so we could tell at a glance how many things were in a box. With some sort of smart glasses we could have just had maybe a unique QR code on each box, and the inventory count just got updated. It may have saved us a bit of time and definitely would have saved a ton of labels, and we wouldn’t have needed the portable label printers we had which would have saved a bit of money as well.

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      When I can, I try to get around on foot. Having some sort of HUD to display directions and such would be pretty nice for that instead of constantly having to pull out my phone.

      Even more true for biking directions. I bought a new old stock Google Glass for $50 and vibecoded OSMGlass for exactly that purpose. It’s adequate.

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      To specifically your point about geysers… I mean I do get it, kind of. We only feel like we need a recording of it because it’s now. If you’d gone 70 years ago you could literally just see it, know you saw it, know it was awesome and cherish the memory. But now we’ve been conditioned to require proof. For ourselves or social media, the outcome is the same. I travel a moderate amount and have seen amazing things. I have a small number of pictures from each trip because I just want to experience the feeling of it. That being said, it is nice to get a photos notie of a past trip and take the memory lane journey. But it never ruins my day when they don’t show up. Ya know?

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    I’ve seen them start to get used on construction sites by inspectors. It is the modern equivalent of strapping a GoPro to your hardhat.

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          Or you could just use a cheap camera (might be less expensive than the hard hat) or your work phone. (Free) They also have the benefit of not being fixed to your head and a viewfinder so you know exactly what’s in frame.

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    You can use them just for the audio like listening to audiobooks, handsfree and for prescription glasses at the same time. No need to use the video stuff.

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        Yes, they block your ears. I can shop with my wife, listen to music and still hear people talking to me just fine. I also use mine when i want to use navigation walking somewhere, it’ll tell me the turns, but won’t be blasting for everyone to hear.

        Also being able to answer and talk on your phone just from your glasses is really nice.

        Personally, i would love if they released an audio only version. I never use the camera or video function on them so imo its a waste of space to have those.

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          Bone conduction headphones have existed for a while.

          I personally hate them. But you dont need creeper glasses for that feature.

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            Did you read my other use cases or just answer about listening to music?

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              I’m not the person you’re replying to, but I’ve owned several pairs of bone conduction headphones, both Alibaba white label stuff and the big brand name. All of them:

              • Don’t block the ears
              • Play navigation directions
              • Have a button to answer phone calls
              • Have a mic for talking on the phone
              • Have a way to trigger a phone’s voice assistant feature

              They are essentially the “audio only version” of Meta glasses you’re requesting. My current Shokz OpenMove was a big upgrade in Bluetooth range and connection stability from any of the white label stuff, though some of those sounded about as good.

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              What other uses did you state that traditional bone conducting headphones can’t do? Or any of the many audio only fashion glasses?

              You paid a premium to one of the worst corporations to have a feature you claim not to want?

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                I didn’t pay premium, my health plan covers vision and they were dirt cheap. I picked up gen 1 glasses before there were audio only fashion glasses.

                Go ahead and tell me what else I did since you seem to think you know me so well.

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                  I don’t think I know you at all, I’m responding strictly to what you said…

                  Gen 1 was released in 2023 at $299. Before then, you could buy a Razer Anzu for $200, a Fauna for $299 if you wanted better “luxury” than the RayBan logo on the shitty meta glasses, or a JLab JBuds Frames for $50 if all you cared about are the things you said you cared about.

                  It’s okay to have been uninformed, it’s okay that you didn’t know there were other options. It’s not okay to gaslight everyone by pretending the meta glasses invented a solution for the use cases you listed…

                  I have Nothing headphones personally which I use with transparency mode, and it works perfectly fine for everything you said you needed your camera equipped glasses for… You wanted smart glasses, that’s alright to say, but it certainly isn’t only solution to your needs.