Economic policies and corruption have caused lots of people to die in lots of places.
Spewing hate at other people online will never make the world a better place. There’s more than enough of it already.
Instead of rabidly hating each other if someone doesn’t use the words you like, why not all try to be better and do better.
pulling off the rubber mask in a Scoobydoo skit: it was the wealthy and powerful authoritarians pretending to be both monsters all along!
🚨🚨 BREAKING! 🚨🚨 Stranger on forum solves thousands of years long, unsolvable grudge that was the reason behind the many violent protests that used to be frequent on Lemmy and lead to mass deports, death and a lot of work on the local moderation.
Users from both sides now resorted to communicating with each other for the first time, and are teaming up to raise a monument in OP’s honor, sources say.
How dare you acknowledge the victims of [favoured ideology]! Everyone knows [favoured ideology] is perfect, and everything wrong with the world is because of those filthy [opposing ideology] zealots!
It seems as stupid as the focus on immigrants and skin color. It doesn’t really matter what the people in power are calling their economic policy if they’re using it to fuck everyone else to death.
Just another thing for people to feel like their petty bickering over is righteous and somehow going to make the world better while the world keeps getting decidedly not better.
What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
It’s neutrons. I haven’t counted, but I think there are an awful lot of them inside me. They make me different.
Compromise? In memory of the 1,000,000,000 victims of communism with capitalist characteristics?
Wow, pretending there’s no victims of capitalism with socialist charactetistics? Just… wow.
Heroin is the drug, heroine is a girl coded hero.
That’s amazing, you’re like a word scientist.
No, that’s a phantom from minecraft
There is a small difference. Real communism has never existed on this planet, always failed or mated with other systems before materializing. Capitalism is everywhere.
The vanguard party magically never wants to give up the power they usurped. All authoritarians are the same.
You could make the same argument for capitalism. True capitalism would require complete abolishment of governments. There is a reason neither have happened, because in order to implement either in a functioning way, you need other elements. Capitalism without some socialist elements will end up killing most of the citizenry.
The implementation of pure communism creates such a massive bureaucracy and lack of opportunities for people who want power over others, that all the psychopaths and malignant narcissists get funneled into the top of the government where they start to extract the full wealth of the society into projects of folly.
The only solution anyone has found is for the 2 to keep each other in balance. This is what happens in successful societies. Anything too far in either direction and the working class is the first to suffer.
Most capitalists, new and old, don’t want to abolish goverments as they deem it a necessary part of capitalism, governments existing are in no way contradictory to capitalism in any way that capitalism isn’t contradictory to itself. Manchester capitalism was mostly “pure” capitalism and in fact many people died, at such a rate that it became uneconomic to continue as there wouldn’t have been any workers left. Welfare isn’t socialist as socialism is the abolishment of capitalism, while public welfare is intended to maintain the capitalist way of production. “Pure” communism does not have anything to do with the USSR or whatever, as communism, opposed to capitalism, does want to and has as necessary part the abolishment of goverment/the state, so you’re second paragraph could only make sense regarding socialism.
If it’s never “real” communism because for it to be “real” communism it has to take place in an ideal civilization where all people are pure and good and no person would ever abuse whatever authority or power they have over distribution for their own personal gain… that’s an inherent flaw.
It’s the same inherent flaw that turns capitalism into child grinding factories. You have to take human nature into account. They’re always going to be shitty people, and shitty people tend to like getting themselves into positions of power.
If for an economic ideology to be actually viable All humans must undergo a lobotomy beforehand it’s useless in the real world.
Some contrarian will still demand one for the victims of anarchism, wait and see
Its harder to make a point that there has ever really been an Anarchist movement which resulted in horror because people either:
- Promote Anarchism and don’t believe in its wrongdoings
or
- Believe “Anarchist Organization” is a bigger Oxymoron than giant shrimp and doesn’t exist
If I were being semantic I would say Communism needs to be put in Quotes.
It’s never “real communism”, because real communism is an ideal thing that can only actually happen when no one in any position of power abuses that for personal gain. No matter how many times it’s tried, people exist and will fuck it up. The same type of people who turn capitalism into baby crushing factories.
We could use a better name for transitional statism that’s for sure. There’s no guarantee the road will ever lead to communism town, especially with fallible humans at the wheel.
If all people need to be in an ideal state for it to actually happen, then it’s irrelevant because even if we managed to get the world to that state whatever got us there would have already proven it’s worth beyond being cast aside to try out some other economic ideology.
You could claim western democracies which are effectively wellfare states are the true socialisms but man that really stirs up BOTH the hives.
More baby crushing factories means less hungry children, less poverty, and baby oil for everyone. It’s clearly socialism. :)
Some contrarian
Minus the “rarian”.
this guy has the right idea
Crazy how much hate was being spewed at me when I’m just a sweet guy.
We should just celebrate the good things, like the otters returning to the Bronx.
Ikr
I prefer to stir everyone into rabid aggression. It’s a very silly thing to see in shitpost and it makes me chortle.
It’s mean to pick on people with developmental disorders. He can’t keep himself from making that face.
You’re saying he didn’t fully develop??? What was he gonna develop into, a fucking actual gorilla.
He got extra physical development, but missed out on the mental part.
I think he might be a bad guy but idk. I haven’t followed anything he’s done since his heavyweight run in the UFC.
With communism you pay for a billion funerals and everyone’s broke but with capitalism a billion funerals and the funeral director is a trillionaire so which is the real broken system?
Well, odds are we’re dead either way. They seem equally fucked for the majority when used in real world conditions.