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This is so stupid. In public, in most countries you have no right not to be filmed. And you certainly can’t destroy someone else’s device.
I know this post is a joke. But whoever actually has a problem with being filmed in public should stay home.
Edit: four people have threatened physical violence against me in reaction to my opinion. Lemmy has a sick culture.
If you’re holding a camera all good I can see you’re definitely trying to record me. If you’re trying to be slick and record me with your secret little spy glasses I literally couldn’t care less about what’s legal or not.
Plus, the law doesn’t concern your feelings. It doesn’t matter if you like something or not, if it’s legal, it’s legal.
And legal is not the same as correct
No, it’s not the same indeed. If something is “correct” is a (shared) opinion. Another person might disagree and consider other things correct. That’s what freedom looks like.
There are cameras everywhere anyways. Don’t act a way you want on film if you’re outside your home, otherwise there’s a chance it’s being recorded and there’s nothing you can do about it 🤷
Consider the hammer analogy, which says that my right to swing a hammer ends where you begin.
My right to privacy doesn’t end simply because I venture out into public. If I decide to go out, and someone little secret camera sees and records me, and creates a file to the effect of, “This is gigastasio and he was seen crossing 5th and Spruce at 11:32 am today, here’s who he was with and everything known about them available on social media, news reports, and more,” freely accessible to another private citizen with no need for that information, that’s antithetical to the value of respecting and protecting our privacy.
You would not walk up to me, ask my name, and begin searching me while I stood there and watched. If you did I would either ignore you or lie to you, which would be the proper response. If that behavior is wrong, so is secretly collecting someone’s identity, whereabouts, associations and other info. And there are very sound counterarguments against the “nothing to hide” stance that can be better articulated by others than I can do at the moment.
Rather than taking the attitude of “there’s already public surveillance, so more is okay,” I would instead say there’s already surveillance, so resist the temptation to add even more and work to dismantle what currently exists.
I don’t like surveillance either, but as it currently stands, you have no expectation of privacy in public.
So as long as there are surveillance cameras, it would be stupid to forbid any civilian filming in public.
I think it would be necessary. And if anyone has a problem with it let them bring legal challenges. In fact, let’s run arguments for and against identity and information harvesting by private citizens against private citizens through the courts and see what shakes out. Seeing as how your position is based on what’s legal as opposed to what’s ethical, I bet you’d be in favor of that.
It’s not strange to want a line drawn somewhere regarding public photography. But I just don’t see how that line ever can be drawn in a fair way.
Might not be anything I can do about you recording me but I can act in a way that will make you think twice about recording the next person
No you won’t. I’m might set up a camera on the sidewalk outside your house tomorrow, and there’s nothing you could do about it. Nothing. You’re not in charge.
You think so? You think you have a right to install your camera on public property?
There are usually peeping tom laws that prevent this kind of thing, and it’s certainly cause for a civil harassment case if the person you’re spying on knows about it.
The real question is: why do you want the ability to film someone’s house like that unless you’re a creeper?
Not install, but hold. Yes, I do have that right where I live.
What an interesting opinion you have, that as long as you break no laws, everyone who doesn’t like your behaviour should be intimidated into not leaving the house for work, medicine, or food.
The only thing I’m saying is that legal things are legal, even if the consequences might make certain people feel bad. We can all use the public space however we like. I can film secretly on the sidewalk, and you can go grocery shopping, and the next person could shout about his religious beliefs, while the next person could be skateboarding.
Well I think you should have more opinions on right and wrong than just what the law tells you to think.
Sure I do. But everyone’s entitled to their own opinions.
If you’re actually puzzled, then you’re a moron. The vast majority of people clearly strongly dislike these things and you’re everywhere in this thread defending them. Are you being paid for your services or do you just love the surveillance state that much?
I love my freedoms. And I understand that in order to have your own freedoms, you have to respect other people having theirs. You all seem to think more in line with “freedom for me, but not for thee”. And so far, no one has produced any arguments outside of something based on their feelings.