Remember when people got punched for wearing Google glasses?
Peppridge farm remembers
Yeah that wasn’t humanity’s brightest moment.
Stopped this bullshit for a decade or so
But violence isn’t the answer. And certainly not to people doing legal stuff in public. Wearing a Google Glass in private is different though.
doing legal stuff in public
Just because its legal doesn’t mean its right
See, what’s “right” is a (shared) opinion. One of the consequences of living in a free country is that other people can have their own opinions.
If you think something is wrong then, unless that risk places you at actual risk of harm, you can have that conversation - in public forums, at the ballot box, with your political representatives. If, rather, you want to dictate what you think is right on everyone, with threat of violence then that is something else.
One of those people
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All I’m saying is last time this tech trend came around, enough people who had a problem with it took drastic actions that directly affected the popularity of wearing a spycam on your face.
Wouldn’t surprise or upset me if history repeated itself.
Wouldn’t surprise me either. But it’s a hugely illogical reaction.
Stop advocating violence against people who might be recording video in public, just because the device doing it is on their face.
A clear violation of the social contract deserves a swift response. Those glasses come off your face, and onto the pavement.
No they don’t. I might actually go film on the sidewalk just outside your home, and there would be nothing at all you can do about it.
Who made this social contract? I certainly didn’t. You want to be able to tell everyone else what the social contract is, and assault them if they don’t comply.
Fascist.
You actually should advocate for violence against people who are violating your rights
What right would be violated here exactly?
You don’t have the right not to be filmed in public. Do you punch every person filming in public? and if you punch someone wearing the glasses, most likely they weren’t even recording.
It’s easy to see someone holding up a camera or cell phone making it obvious they are recording. If you don’t want to be recorded, you can just stay the fuck away from them. You can’t avoid cameras/recording devices you can’t see. Fuck meta, and fuck anyone else wearing their garbage, privacy invading glasses.
Yeah, it’ll be really hard to spot the giant dorky glasses with the laser beam recording LED.
Of course, in practice you don’t behave differently when you spot someone holding their phone up in the street, because you’re already behaving like you’re being watched because you’re in fucking public.
Yeah, putting cameras in glasses is a really stupid idea
People hitting other people because they don’t like whatever legal activities the other person is undertaking, that’s stupid.
You would have fought for the confederacy because it was legal to own slaves
No? I just don’t think filming in a public place is wrong. Why would it be? No one has been able to provide a reason.
I don’t care about being filmed in public. After all I’m in public, if I want privacy I’ll go somewhere else.
Obligatory fuck meta though.
if I want privacy I’ll go somewhere else.
Because they absolutely could not just follow you.
People could do that before meta glasses. I’m not talking about governments here. I’m talking about regular people and you have no illusion of privacy in public. Pretty common sense that.
So you’re okay with being filmed in bathrooms. Got it.
This is an example of where you do have the expectation of privacy. Although a bathroom may be in public it’s not legally a public area.
I do street photography so I have checked the rules in my country.
Too bad. They’re standing right next to you with those glasses on. Hope you aren’t camera shy when trying to take a piss. See what your genius idea of ‘I’ll just go someplace private’ conveniently ignores is that with these glasses there are no private places anymore.
And did you have the same outrage when phone cameras became a thing.
I don’t know about you dude but if I’m a urinal and someone is looking at me I’m having words regardless of any device they’re holding.
For what it’s worth fuck meta but right now you’re old man shouting a clouds.
You sound like the right wingers saying what’s to stop a trans person raping me in the toilet.
I don’t know, but it would be wierd if someone’s stalking you in public though, So yea having all these footages that can be stitched together which says wherever you go…
(this is a stupid hyper hypothetical scenario I made up, not that meta would be interested to do all that work just to track a person)
People could do that before bro. Phone, DSLR, etc.
You have no assumption of privacy in public. If this hypothetical stalker is following you then they’ll do that with or without meta glasses.
These comments are a cesspit
This is so stupid. In public, in most countries you have no right not to be filmed. And you certainly can’t destroy someone else’s device.
I know this post is a joke. But whoever actually has a problem with being filmed in public should stay home.
Edit: four people have threatened physical violence against me in reaction to my opinion. Lemmy has a sick culture.
If you’re holding a camera all good I can see you’re definitely trying to record me. If you’re trying to be slick and record me with your secret little spy glasses I literally couldn’t care less about what’s legal or not.
Plus, the law doesn’t concern your feelings. It doesn’t matter if you like something or not, if it’s legal, it’s legal.
And legal is not the same as correct
No, it’s not the same indeed. If something is “correct” is a (shared) opinion. Another person might disagree and consider other things correct. That’s what freedom looks like.
There are cameras everywhere anyways. Don’t act a way you want on film if you’re outside your home, otherwise there’s a chance it’s being recorded and there’s nothing you can do about it 🤷
Consider the hammer analogy, which says that my right to swing a hammer ends where you begin.
My right to privacy doesn’t end simply because I venture out into public. If I decide to go out, and someone little secret camera sees and records me, and creates a file to the effect of, “This is gigastasio and he was seen crossing 5th and Spruce at 11:32 am today, here’s who he was with and everything known about them available on social media, news reports, and more,” freely accessible to another private citizen with no need for that information, that’s antithetical to the value of respecting and protecting our privacy.
You would not walk up to me, ask my name, and begin searching me while I stood there and watched. If you did I would either ignore you or lie to you, which would be the proper response. If that behavior is wrong, so is secretly collecting someone’s identity, whereabouts, associations and other info. And there are very sound counterarguments against the “nothing to hide” stance that can be better articulated by others than I can do at the moment.
Rather than taking the attitude of “there’s already public surveillance, so more is okay,” I would instead say there’s already surveillance, so resist the temptation to add even more and work to dismantle what currently exists.
I don’t like surveillance either, but as it currently stands, you have no expectation of privacy in public.
So as long as there are surveillance cameras, it would be stupid to forbid any civilian filming in public.
I think it would be necessary. And if anyone has a problem with it let them bring legal challenges. In fact, let’s run arguments for and against identity and information harvesting by private citizens against private citizens through the courts and see what shakes out. Seeing as how your position is based on what’s legal as opposed to what’s ethical, I bet you’d be in favor of that.
It’s not strange to want a line drawn somewhere regarding public photography. But I just don’t see how that line ever can be drawn in a fair way.
Might not be anything I can do about you recording me but I can act in a way that will make you think twice about recording the next person
No you won’t. I’m might set up a camera on the sidewalk outside your house tomorrow, and there’s nothing you could do about it. Nothing. You’re not in charge.
You think so? You think you have a right to install your camera on public property?
There are usually peeping tom laws that prevent this kind of thing, and it’s certainly cause for a civil harassment case if the person you’re spying on knows about it.
The real question is: why do you want the ability to film someone’s house like that unless you’re a creeper?
Not install, but hold. Yes, I do have that right where I live.
If you’re actually puzzled, then you’re a moron. The vast majority of people clearly strongly dislike these things and you’re everywhere in this thread defending them. Are you being paid for your services or do you just love the surveillance state that much?
I love my freedoms. And I understand that in order to have your own freedoms, you have to respect other people having theirs. You all seem to think more in line with “freedom for me, but not for thee”. And so far, no one has produced any arguments outside of something based on their feelings.
What an interesting opinion you have, that as long as you break no laws, everyone who doesn’t like your behaviour should be intimidated into not leaving the house for work, medicine, or food.
The only thing I’m saying is that legal things are legal, even if the consequences might make certain people feel bad. We can all use the public space however we like. I can film secretly on the sidewalk, and you can go grocery shopping, and the next person could shout about his religious beliefs, while the next person could be skateboarding.
Well I think you should have more opinions on right and wrong than just what the law tells you to think.
Sure I do. But everyone’s entitled to their own opinions.