I hope this guy has a very slow and painful death.
At this point, I’d prefer a fast and painful death. We need this fucker gone.
Fellas, fellas, we can do both. We can wish for him to instantly fall into a coma in which he cannot wake up from. Where all he feels is pain, and agony suffering to survive himself, inside his own brain. Where the only way out to end the torture is for him to push his ego aside, and admit that he’s never been the smartest person in any room.
Until that happens, he stays artificially life supported in his own coma of hell. Where time fluctuates for him 5 minutes is actually 5 months. And he’ll stay in that state for years.
Suddenly and instantly gone from our lives, but surviving in a never ending battle against his own ego which he’ll never overcome.
I don’t think the very best thing we can imagine is gonna happen, but you know what does seem more realistic for that reason?
A dystopian horror where they keep him (barely) alive while he’s suffering immensely because they need him as figurehead, in order to continue their fascism. Yes it would be poetic justice for him, but it’s not gonna make anybody else’s life better.
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I think I’ve heard of that, if it’s what I’m remembering.
There was this kid in tge 1960s. He got hit by a car, but didn’t die. He wasn’t in a coma, but it looked like he was in a coma but awake.
He was kept on life support, but really the life support wasn’t needed. They found he was actually breathing just fine. But they kept him on it, in his living room.
He was just a kid. Like 7 years old.
Flash forward to the late 90s and he, now nearly 40 was propped up on the couch like normal. His mom was watching wheel of fortune. Then his mom just hears her son take a guess at the puzzle. Not only was it the right answer, but it was the first words he had spoken in like 35 years.
Turns out his mom would watch wheel of fortune, and jeapordy every night. And every night in his own head he would play along.
The story never explains how he snapped out of it. He just took a guess at the wheel of fortune answer just as he’d done for years. This time it was verbal.
The son later on asked his mom if she remembered a moment that had happened in the 70s. His mom walked into the room, saw him, and said “Why won’t you just die already? You’re tearing this family apart. We can’t keep funding your burden…”
And then she left the room. Never to speak of it again.
That moment lived rent free in this guys head for 20+ years. Everyday knowing he’s hurting his family. Everyday being a burden. From his own mothers mouth. He’s their burden. That’s the thought he had every day.
And when he asked his mom if she remembered that, she burst into tears. She didn’t remember at all.
So now it’s the 90s. He’s speaking for the first time. His friend who he knew before the accident, left work early. Didn’t even tell anyone he was leaving. He got a text. “John is speaking”. He was in John’s living room within 15 minutes.
This friend had visited him sometimes every day. Sometimes a few times a week. But always with him. And because he had come over, everyday his friend for 30+ years had talked to him as if he were normal. So he learned of his friend’s life in real time. And from Johns point of view, he didn’t even need to catch up, because he was never out of the loop.
One of the first things he wanted to do was to meet his friends wife. He had been married for 10 years, but she never felt comfortable visiting. But his friend would talk about her so much that he felt like he knew her already.
I changed the names. Mostly because I read this story about 15 years ago and don’t remember the names. I’m probably forgetting other details too. It just stuck out to me that his mom, probably in a moment of frustration that she didn’t mean, gave him such mental trauma with just a few sentences that would last a lifetime. And also it stuck out to me how a 7 year old kept his friend in his life, until almost 40 years old without one word spoken from John.
Trump dying will not stop this. He’s a carnival barker and is not really in charge.
I really hope his death is very slow, very painful, and very public. I want him to drag his cursed movement down with him. If he abruptly dies, he’ll be a martyr that bolsters this movement, and that would be worse.
Trump dying will not stop this. He’s a carnival barker and is not really in charge.
But he’s the one they’re all unifying behind.
Once he’s gone, everybody else is going to be clamoring to become the next Trump, the next leader of the right wing. And this competition will divide them and turn them against one another. No more cooperation, no more covering for each other’s crimes – they’ll be at each other’s throats, throwing each other under the bus.
Eventually one will probably come out on top, but until then, the infighting over the power vacuum will cripple them.
I’m not sure people are acknowledging the amount of money and slavery are behind this movement.
Trump’s perverted brand of charisma is what propelled him to the two-time presidency. It was glaringly obvious in 2017, when the rest of Republicans started competing in who can best emulate his assholery.
Boneitis.
I really won’t feel sorry for him,
Do you want a person who might not remember what he did, and/or is otherwise delusional, a slow and painful death?
Lma fucking o. Just because he may not remember the last 5 or 10 or even 25 years, the man has a lifetime of hate of prejudice following him. For example, the first building he ever controlled refused to rent to black people.
If a 6 year-old murdered 10 people, would you wish wt:thon a very slow and painful death? What if a dog killed 10 people? No in either case? Then what if it was proven that Trump, either now, or in the future, is/was [future tense] alive but had the mentality of a 6 year-old or a dog?
How many blacks (and others) were unjustly, or mostly unjustly, incarcerated in federal prisons early January 2017 that Obama could have pardoned, but didn’t?
I’m ignoring all your points because he’s been a grown man for over double what I’ve been alive and is a huge hateful piece of shit. I literally don’t care about anything you typed tbh
I’m ignoring all your points because he’s been a grown man for over double what I’ve been alive
So you want formerly-evil-now-senile-people to suffer?
and is a huge hateful piece of shit.
and if he suffers in his senility, this hate will be cured?
I literally don’t care about anything you typed tbh
Then why do you respond?
Because you’re defending a rapist because he’s senile?
Yes, against him suffering a very slow and painful death.
He might not remember what he did and thus why he is suffering.
What’s your point in making him suffer?
Sociopath. Even if you hate the guy, if you’re a public figure like trump, the least you can do is muster a bit of empathy.
But he can’t, because he can’t even fathom the concept of empathy. It’s completely foreign to him.
Electing sociopaths is how you get war and genocide, as we’ve known for millennia. And we’ve given a total sociopath the levers of genocide, both abroad and at home.
Had me until you said “muster a bit of empathy”. Trump would never.
Could never, even.
He doesn’t need to have empathy, he could just say nothing.
Respect is earned while someone is alive and healthy, Biden has earned no respect.
No. Basic respect for the life of your fellow human is intrinsic. Nobody should have to earn the right to live, jackass.
When the actions they’ve committed throughout their life has led to the harm of others, there is no intrinsic respect.
People that are able to say stuff like this are exactly why we have the situation we’re having. If you can turn off your empathy for the “bad guys”, all it takes is just misidentifying the “bad guys” once, either by mistake or on purpose or by being manipulated.
Even serial killers or mass murders deserve some basic respect. You got to deal with them appropriately so they can’t be a threat anymore, but once that’s done, the respect should be the same as for anyone else.
Did you grieve when Charles Manson or Jeffery Epstein died?
No, why? I do not grieve for most of people’s deaths.
So your basic respect for them doesn’t necessitate your grieving their deaths?
Respect and derision are not the only choices.
e: for example, failure to even acknowledge is a deeper social slight, and one that stays through time, not something cheap and transient. But that requires a bit of sophistication.
That’s actually not how respect works at all, what your thinking of is adoration. Respect is lost, if you don’t start with a baseline of respect for everyone, you don’t respect anyone.
Despite his many crimes, I am nearly sure Joe Biden has done more to deserve respect than you ever will.
“If Biden deserves so much respect, then why am I still an asshole?”
- AssholesBiden is a war criminal that prepped the way for Trump to come to power.
If you feel any pitty for him, you should stop NOW.
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Being a Democrat in name only, does not make you a decent person whatsoever.
Mr hair sniffer, stall on Ukraine, drill in the arcticson, is not a good person.
Also does not make them to blame for Trump above all the people who voted for Trump, and all the politicians actively supporting him and not reigning him in.
Anyone that has an ounce of respect for him based on what he has done throughout his life and the harm he has caused on untold millions of people deserves no respect either.
It’s not about respect for his actions, of course they’re terrible, it’s about respect for a human being suffering. There is no real point to wish suffering on anyone, other’s suffering never helped anything except satisfy one’s vengeful fantasies/sadism. If someone is hurting others, you make them stop hurting others, but you still give them basic human respect, i.e. don’t make them suffer needlessly etc
You have empathy for Trump’s dementia?
Yes, I do have empathy for sick old humans. I wish Trump was safe in a nursing home or wherever, wouldn’t feel the need for constant validation and would feel loved. He’s quite obviously got massive internal struggles that make him do terrible things to feel less terrible himself, if he was doing better, I’m sure he wouldn’t do any of the things he’s doing and likely wouldn’t be president or similar.
Genocide is the mother of all crimes. Financing it nullify all the good thing you did. He also supported balkanizing Iraq.
Yeah and the other guy rapes children. What’s the point of comparison in this scenario?
You didn’t brought trump raping kids in the comment I reply to. You don’t seem like a good faith user. Israel rape children with usa diplomatic cover. Trump is also complicit with genocide so yeah i hope both trump and biden suffer
“both sides”
Both sides need to die where we dance on their graves.
if you’re a public figure like trump, the least you can do is muster a bit of empathy.
Public figures have even more reasons not to muster empathy for genocide supporters
Wish we had public figures that were unbothered by it for cool reasons.
Not that I think he had much in the way of empathy prior to this, but he lacks a filter of any kind which is a symptom I had to repeatedly apologize for when my grandfather’s dementia got worse.
The dude has full on dementia, no one is doing anything and he will continue to degrade both himself and the reputation of anything associated with him as this keeps going.
Funnily enough, dipshit donny might be the best publically perceivable evidence of the need for reform we will ever get.
Reforms that are needed:
- Compulsory voting for all citizens
- Ranked choice voting system
- Age limits for politicians
I’m sure there are more, but this is just off the top of my head.
- I’d be less oppose if it’s accompanied with NOTA options.
- What if A gets 26% of the vote, B gets 25%, C gets 24%, D gets 15%, and E gets 10%?
- What should be the age limit for US Presidents? and should the 35 be lowered to 18? Ditto for US VPs?
What if A gets 26% of the vote, B gets 25%, C gets 24%, D gets 15%, and E gets 10%?
The standard method of ranked choice voting: E gets eliminated as they have the least, everyone who voted for them goes to their next ranked choice. Repeat until one person has over 50%.
Please forgive any ignorance on my part, but would it be required that we’d know what the 2nd (and 3rd and 4th and so on) preferences of those who voted for E in the first choice?
If so, and if such could be done, what if of those who voted for E on their first choice, in their second preference, half of them (i.e. half of 10% being 5%) voted for C, a third of them voted for B, and a sixth of them voted for A;
meanwhile two-thirds of those who voted in their first preference for A, half of those who voted in their first preference for B, and a third of those who voted in their first preference for C, voted for D in their 2nd preference? —i.e. (⅔ x 26%) + (½ x 25%) + (⅓ x 24%) = 16⅔% + 12½% + 8% = 36⅚%.
Here’s a brief explanation of how preferential voting works in Australia: https://www.chickennation.com/voting/
Thank you. 🙂
1st count
Bamboot got 39.
Floundra got 35.
Aggy-Waggy got 20.
Gort got 6.
But why did Bamboot get 4 of Gort’s votes while Aggy-Waggy got only 1, even though the latter got over half the number of the former?
Shouldn’t it be 3+2+1 instead of 4+1+1?
and why in the 3rd count did Floundra get 16 of Aggy-Waggy votes, while Bamboot got only 5 or less than 1/3rd?
Presumably in a run-off, it would be Bamboot versus Floundra;
while in proportional representation, the Complete Scumbag Party, Discreet Scumbag Party, the [Gort Butterson Party], and the Nice Party, in a parliament of 100 might get 39, 35, 6, and 20 seats respectively, with probably the Nice Party being in a coalition.
Even if it was 1/2 PR and 1/2 FPP, each system electing 100 candidates (hence a parliament of 200), and in the FPP vote, the Complete Scumbag Party won 51 of the FFP seats, the Discreet Scumbad Party won 38 seats (i.e. less than 75% of the former’s number of seats, or conversely the former got over less than 35% the latter’s number of seats), the Nice Party won only 8 (2/5ths of what they won in the PR count) seats, and Gort won 3 seats it would still be:
name PR FPP % Complete Scumbag Party 39 51 45 Discreet Scumbag Party 35 38 36.5 [Gort Butterson Party] 6 3 4.5 Nice Party 20 8 14 We could have 3 possible coalitions:
Complete Scumbag Party & Discreet Scumbag Party most powerful but least probable Complete Scumbag Party & Nice Party most probable Discreet Scumbag Party & Gort Butterson Party & Nice Party possible, but probably most unstable
Plenty of countries have laws that fine or otherwise punish people that do not vote, afaik this doesn’t tend to lead to better functioning democracies. I think this is a thing where the carrot works better than the stick.
Automatic voter registration based on citizenship. Boom, solves a big percentage of the problem.
You’d be shocked how much a bit of minor paperwork stops a large percentage of people from doing the bare minimum.
This felon rapist is so insulated from reality that I honestly don’t believe he realizes that the nation (world?) is going to make a fucking holiday out of his passing.
I’m from New Zealand, and I will ABSOLUTELY be celebrating the end of this fucker.
I need to figure out a way to fly a flag at double mast. Maybe a helium balloon?
You know, it’s kind of fair, because no person on the planet and that includes his kids would be sorry if trump got cancer.
Just remember this when he dies.
His followers will screech about “civility” any time anyone says anything like that.
I’ll simply reply in the mortal words of Charlie “got kirked” Kirk when he said “uhhghahhaowhhhglughgnhgurgle—”
I can’t wait until the pedophile nazi king dies.
What instead if he’s impeached soon after November, lives to be 100, while either running in the 2028, 2032, 2036, 2040, and 2044 GOP primaries and/or having a proxy/proxies such as Ivanka, Jared, Don Jr, Eric, Rudy, Whisky Pete, and/or even Vance run in such?
All these ancient politicians dying in the next 5-10 years, we can finally be free
Billionaires and megacorps are not going to stop running the country because a few figure heads croak. I wish.
It doesn’t work that way. There will be many reasons to celebrate, sure, but this problem doesn’t go away with a few obituaries.
Maybe if they all happen within a few days then?
A group of ex military can make that happen
Just what the US needs: a military coup, perhaps lead by people who oversaw atrocities in Iraq, Afghanistan, and perhaps Vietnam. :-/
He’s an idiot, incredibly stupid, profoundly ignorant, intellectually dishonest, narcissistic, deeply self-centered, completely lacking in empathy, a bully, cruel, vindictive, petty, spiteful, arrogant, vulgar, selfish, boorish, reckless, and deeply unpleasant, and he behaves like a spoiled child with an astonishing lack of self-awareness.
And that’s why Trump ended up being elected. The average GOP voter saw themselves in him. He’s a reflection of what so many secretly admire.
Death will be too kind for both of them
. Same for 
, 
, 
, Bush, and all the other swine who have directed the trajectory of the demonic settler-colonial 
project.
Altho anarchists are misguided, you are right on this one
Said the Mao simp, lol
mao actually did something
IIUC, 10s of millions of Chinese starved under his rule, meanwhile Taiwan got better.
Do you know 9 million people starve to death every year under capitalism? Do you know how much famines happened in China before mao? Do you know under Mao China’s population doubled? Do you know under Mao China’s literacy rates, housing rates, healthcare improved massively? Do you know under Mao China ended the century of humiliation and liquidated all landlords who were exploiting peasants?
Yeah taiwan got better
- By supporting israel
- By supporting apartheid africa
- By g’ciding natives of taiwan
- By hosting american military and being american imperial tool to control south china sea
Too much success isnt it
Do you know 9 million people starve to death every year under capitalism?
Are you talking about wp:OECD member states whose combined population might be 50% more numerous than was Maoist China?
Do you know how much famines happened in China before mao?
I understand many, however I suppose we can both agree that the emperors were evil, as was Chiang and Japan in the 1930s and first half of the 1940s.
Do you know under Mao China’s population doubled?
Yes: “every mouth has 2 hands.” IIUC, Mao was a pro-natalist.
China seems to have done better/less bad under Deng and the 2 child policy.
Do you know under Mao China’s literacy rates, housing rates, healthcare improved massively?
(my bold)
In 1821, Sequoyah completed his Cherokee syllabary, enabling reading and writing in the Cherokee language. One of the first North American Indigenous groups to gain a written language, the Cherokee Nation officially adopted the syllabary in 1825,[2] helping to unify a forcibly divided nation with new ways of communication and a sense of independence.[3] Within a quarter-century, the Cherokee Nation had reached a literacy rate of almost 100%, surpassing that of surrounding European-American settlers.[4]
I’ll have to check out the housing and health, but other countries might also have improved such without things such as the so-called “Cultural revolution.”
Do you know under Mao China ended the century of humiliation and liquidated all landlords who were exploiting peasants?
I wonder where China would be without Sun Yat-sen or even Chiang.
(Where would Lenin be without Kerensky? Where would Stalin be without either of them?)
Perhaps Mao could have done it without the millions of deaths.
Yeah taiwan got better
By supporting israel
The USSR was the first country to recognize Israel.
The Nationalist government of the ROC had been historically sympathetic to the Zionist cause, while ROC founder Sun Yat-sen affirmed his support for the creation of a Jewish state.[17][18]
…
according to the lede:
In 1950, Israel became the first country in the Middle East to recognize the PRC as the sole government in mainland China,[3] but the CCP did not reciprocate by establishing diplomatic ties due to Israel’s alignment with the Western Bloc during the Cold War.
It seems that things are a bit nuanced here.
By supporting apartheid africa
IIUC, a pariah state and one with little diplomatic relations, helped each other, including working on nuclear weapons.
While I’m sure many in the far left would be indifferent to the PRC taking Taiwan, perhaps supportive of it, Taiwan itself would rather maintain independence, if only a de facto independence.
Meanwhile, many of us seem to be okay with gender apartheid in many Muslim-majority countries.
By g’ciding natives of taiwan
I think the PRC was/is far worse at genocide.
wp:Persecution of Uyghurs in China
From the 1950s to the 1970s, the Chinese government sponsored a mass migration of Han Chinese to Xinjiang and introduced policies designed to suppress cultural identity and religion in the region.[52] During this period, Uyghur independence organizations emerged with some support from the Soviet Union, with the East Turkestan People’s Party being the largest in 1968.[53] During the 1970s, the Soviets supported the United Revolutionary Front of East Turkestan (URFET) against the Han Chinese.[54]
Hmmmm, interesting.
Also, it seems some Muslimphobes in right-wing circles in the West support what China is doing with its Muslims.
By hosting american military and being american imperial tool to control south china sea
The US somewhat abandoned Taiwan in the early 1970s to exploit the Sino-Soviet split.
It seems some of the PRCs neighbours—India, Vietnam, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan—are heavily armed.
btw:
one of my favorite scenes in the 1976 movie Network:
Network - The Mao Tse Tung Hour Negotiations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqvlMxfGA4
1:55
IIUC, a depicted 3-way between a pro-Moscow Communist, Maoists, or quasi-Maoists, and the network.
😁 🙂
a whole lot of wikipedia slop.
You reap what you sow. I have a bottle of champagne waiting for his metastatic cancer death.
You really don’t, sadly.
Down voted for a truth no one wants to hear. Damn. Well you got my upvote stranger
Some of us do.
Bahaha love the champagne for when he croaks.
Maybe I’m missing something. I’ll celebrate when he croaks too. I’m just saying people don’t reap what they sow. If they did trump would have never been president.
I sure wish karma was a thing. Kissinger wouldn’t have died a wealthy, comfortable man at a century old if it were.
I will drink in celebration when he is fucking dead.
Regardless of the outcome how it happens.
Let’s start a “How we want him to die.” wish list.
Severely burned while trying to fry a turkey behind the white house.
Trips and falls face first into the reflecting pool and drowns.
Dies of covid due to being unvaccinated.
Shot by his own secret service.
Qatar activates the secret kill switch on Air Force One at 30,000 feet.
Shits himself to death after eating bad lettuce in a Whopper.
Fournier’s gangrene (look it up)
Has a stroke and his staff stand around while he dies on the floor a la Stalin.How about “Ritualistically murdered by Stephen Miller, who then drinks his blood to absorb his power.”
I don’t think anyone wants a world where Stephen Miller thinks he has MORE power
Sucks for Biden, but I will never forgive him for not firing Garland & making damn sure pedo Trump died in a prison cell.
I will never forgive him for the Gaza Genocide
I was under the impression that it was Israel invading Gaza.
And which country is
the lapdog of? Which country could have ended the genocide with a single phone call? (Not a defense of Reagan btw, he was a Zionist neoliberal demon even with this one action, and the world is a better place without him)If Netanyahu just says nope to Trump’s peace plan, why would he say yes to Biden’s?
And Reagan didn’t achieve shit - Israel carried on building in the occupied territories regardless, and they only abandoned their war in Lebanon because it was going badly. Reagan did telephone the Israeli prime minister but the Israeli cabinet had already voted to stop the campaign that day, but of course Reagan wanted to take credit for that and announced how stern he was on the phone and the American news outlets of course delighted in fluff pieces praising the president for stopping the war. But that’s all it was. Fluff.
So, no, your “American president can stop Israeli wars with one phone call” is BS,
America supplied the weapons to do the genocide. If America stops supplying the weapons, no more genocide. Are you 12?
Didn’t Reagan give weapons and a Bible to the Iranian theocracy?
I know you guys also literally trained and supplied the group that would become Al Qaeda
As much as I personally would have liked it, I cannot support making the justice department nakedly partisan/political. It’s horrifying that trump has tried to do so and I’m relieved the guardrails are still (basically) holding.
It’s hard to be the good side. Like how the movie villain gets to throw babies for the hero to rescue (God, Hard Boiled is so good) but we don’t win by becoming the bad guys ourselves.
Failing to prosecute a known criminal out of a fear of appearing nakedly partisan/political is, as it turns out, as bad as corrupting the justice dept to make it nakedly partisan/political.
Biden should have had an AG who went after criminals regardless of the political consequences.
Firing the AG for not prosecuting the cases you want prosecuted, IS nakedly political.
The DOJ’s independence is one of the strongest guardrails protecting American democracy and why so many decent people have resigned rather than submit.
Look at trials in Russia (about which there are some amazing albeit depressing documentaries) to see where a coopted justice department ends up.
Well, your so called guardrails were never anything more than a gentleman’s agreement, that much is plainly obvious.
The simple fact is Garland’s DoJ completely failed to provide timely justice for the citizens of the USA. Full fucking stop.
Those same guardrails have repeatedly stopped trump this term.
Just because things didn’t happen as you wish they did does not mean they failed, full fucking stop.
Incorrect. The Judicial branch has stopped Trump repeatedly. Furthermore, I was talking about the DoJ’s failure regarding the whole speedy trail thing we are supposed to have in this country. You can stop putting words in my mouth. We don’t need your strawman arguments here.
FYI, the Executive Branch & Judicial branch are separate.
The current DoJ has attempted every single illegal thing Trump has requested.
Please learn how the separation of powers works in the USA.
Did you mean to respond to someone else? What words were put in your mouth?
And you might note the thousands who have resigned from the DOJ, leaving mostly incompetent goofs behind who cannot secure convictions. (Because, yup, they respected the DoJ’s independence. In other words, one of those guardrails working.)
