• GarboDog@lemmy.world
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        That’s very true, we never believed in Christmas/religion but never spoiled/ruined it for others, it was their enjoyment.

        Granted when we have a kid, we don’t think we’ll be telling them that “Santa is just a famous character of Christmas, and some people have fun believing he’s real, so don’t ruin their fun either” or something like that. Still have plenty of years to think of how to word it better lol :P

        • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world
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          9 days ago

          I just told my kid the truth the first time it came up. It wasn’t and never has been an issue. They dgaf if an invisible pink unicorn brought those presents.

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          Honestly, I think i will “lie” about Santa. Simply because it doesn’t really matter and it is fun for them.

          • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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            2 months ago

            Something to consider: do you want to normalize lying to your kid? I realize that’s an antagonistic way to phrase it, but that’s pretty much what’s happening

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              This is such a boring thing that people say all the time.

              Lying is normal. You should be lying. Lying isn’t morally wrong if it is not done for morally wrong reasons. My child should be lying to me. I should be lying to my child.

              And my children will understand the difference between lying to e.g. prevent a surprise to be ruined and lying to avoid facing consequences.

              It is such a black and white thinking. It is so boring too. I will teach my children violence because 1 day, they might need it too.

              And sidenote: e.g. telling your child that they can “trust” the security or the police if they get lost in a large crowd, is a lie. But one that is true enough that the child is safer with them than alone in a crowd. Telling your child that e.g. a electrical signal is travelling from the tv station through a wire to your tv, would be a lie if there is some fiber cables somewhere between them, or a satellite connection. Yes, simplifications are lying. We will lie anyway to enable them to navigate the far too complex world and slowly learn about the real underlying complexities.

              And obviously, there is a difference between making them write letters to Santa and telling them Santa brings gifts for Christmas.

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                  What argument? You parroted an question. That you think you made an argument, highlights that you parroted the question. Even if you want to understand the question as an argument, a basic inspection of the implied premise that lying is bad, is enough to dismiss the argument as lazy and surface-level.

                  If you don’t like it when people call your output boring, say something worthwhile.

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            Yeah, its pretty obvious peoppe are lying anout Santa once you realize the North Pole has no land.

            Santa clearly is from the South Pole.

            Pretty genius actually, getting people to look for him on the opposite side of the planet.

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    Great thing about atheism Anon, no one made ha do that shit but you, and you get to take full responsibility for your actions without the cop-out of “demonic possession”. Take that beating with pride knowing that you posses radical freedom.

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    This is basivi when somebody tries to be an atheist in a dogmatic, religious way.

    Being atheist, at least to me, means that you don’t care about any of that crap, you just try to be a nice person and let others be

    I’m “militant” enough to wish that all religions would be prohibited as they’re nothing but tools for control, but I won’t beat someone over the head for believing in fairytales

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      Seems like atheist in predominantly religious societies tend to behave a bit different, and I can understand that teenagers would want to make a big deal out of it.

      My parents were atheists, and so have I been my entire life. But we still celebrated Christmas because it was nice and a tradition. We didn’t go to church or do any religious stuff during Christmas, but ate a traditional Christmas meal, had a Christmas tree, presents and what not.

      Religion was just not a topic at all, unless religious people did stupid stuff in the name of religion

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        I’m straight up born atheist, hubs is agnostic. We go hard on christmas because fuck you it’s fun.

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    Sounds like Atheism, like all belief systems, empowered an asshole with self-righteous validation. Even if you bet on the right horse, it doesn’t mean everything you do is automatically justified; empathy is a higher order law.

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      Atheism isn’t really a belief system by itself. It can refer to a lot of things, including positive atheism (the claim that there is not/cannot be a god/supernatural entity), negative atheism (the lack of belief in a deity due to lack of evidence), the absence of religion and many other things. Militant atheism, on the other hand, definitely counts and is susceptible to all the failings you mentioned.

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        It’s not called militant atheism, you’re describing anti-theism. I’ve never heard of atheism claiming definitively that there are no deities or higher powers either, just that since there’s no evidence the claims aren’t worth consideration and can be dismissed as nonsense.

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    “I have removed the chocolate from the tree. Science doesn’t allow chocolate to grow on trees”

    Anon science’d so hard he because a superstitious nutcase (many such cases). This is completely zealot brained.

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    science doesnt allow chocolate to be grown on trees

    Not with that attitude it doesnt. Give us a few hundred years and we’ll have them growing it fully formed, with caramel inside.

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    What’s annoying about religious people discussing atheism(which happens every time it’s brought up) is that they invariably assume atheists also have religious thinking. Like I must go to atheist church every Sunday to convince myself there’s no god. It betrays either a lack of empathy or a lack of honesty.

    Nah, I tended my garden, had some coffee, and going to have some tacos later. I only think about religion when it’s brought up, usually when I see a billboard telling me my life is worthless and magic daddy is gonna have me for barbeque after I die.