I am currently reading this book about the five large carnivores of Scandinavia and I am absolutely humbled, both by finding out how little I knew about them, what prejudice I had against them and how people that live in close proximity to them can both love, respect and be angry with them at the same time. I am reading the original release in Swedish.
- What have you encountered in the wild?
- When, where, how?
- What were your initial thoughts, feelings and reactions (physical, psychological, etc.)?
- What do think of them in general? <— this last question applies to everybody, regardless of whether you have seen or met one of these large carnivores or not.
Personally, without having met any one of them, I am humbled, scared, amazed and intrigued by them. I feel for those whose - for instance - livestock are threatened by them, especially if it directly damages business. I also strongly believe that the matter should not be dumbed down to the dichotmy of “ignore those that suffer from them” or “eradicate them”. We are far too intelligent and developed a race to degrade ourselves so.
I’ve had multiple encounters with bears, cougars, alligators, and meth heads.
The closets I came to dying was being chased around my car for 30m by a mother black bear after I disturbed her hiding in a basement via coal flue. Lost my keys and had to wait for a park ranger to come save me.
Please, elaborate.
What did Attenborough say about the meth heads? Also, holy shit that must’ve been nerve wrecking… How did the park ranger save you? Was the bear killed?
Jeez, that’s one hell of a workout
I saw a guy at a McDonalds who needed two chairs to sit. Terrifying.
Probably my buddy Larry. Larry’s out there convincing people to go vegan so there’s more meat for him.
I’ve never seen one but I’m pretty sure I’ve been stalked by a puma on more than one occasion. The silence is the most unnerving part. Just dead silence. The birds the squirrels, all of them suddenly stop yapping. Maybe you hear some snapping in the trees. Not a lot. Maybe one twig. And then you leave the area and thank whatever god you worship that attacks are really rare. If the cat wanted you the cat would have you.
I have seen coyotes, and they’re not scary in the slightest unless you have a smaller animal with you. Coyotes are scrawny little bastsrds but they’re devious. I have heard stories about a lone coyote “playing” with a dog, and then luring said dog into the woods where it is then set upon by the pack. Probably just folklore. What’s not folklore is that they’ll absolutely eat your pets and livestock if you give them a chance. They are, in many situations, pests.
I’ve not met a bear but I’m not looking forward to it.
A lot of the commenters report this phenomenon where the critters suddenly stop making sounds. It sounds like a scene from a movie - which is probably the only “place” where I have “experienced” it - but experiencing it in person must be such a humbling experience, whether it’s frightening or amazing.
I have little to no knowledge of pumas, but in the 2011 video game Skyrim, mountain lions can be modded in as extremely high DPS beasts. xD
Around day four of a week-long backpacking trip just east of Yosemite, I encountered a bear one morning on my way to do my business. I turned a corner around a large boulder and there he was, was sunning himself on the trail. When he saw me he slowly got up and wandered back into the trees. That simple description left out the few seconds of sheer panic I experienced realizing that the bear could, if it wanted to, cover the distance between us before I could turn around and take three steps. There was nothing but flat, open ground between us and that is what was most frightening.
I hope you were at least able to… relieve yourself? xD Regardless, what an amazing close encounter!!!
I once walked up on a sow Grizzly bear and her young adult cub while walking my reactive to everything puppy in the woods. We were alone because anything and everything would set her off and she would scream and carry on, and was upsetting my other dog, who I had, in part, to scare bears.
They gave 0 shits about me, and the puppy didn’t notice them, despite being uncomfortably close, thank God.
My initial thought was ‘oh shit’ followed by ‘yeah, I won’t confuse them with black bears’. (Black bears can sometimes be brown, and I had always wondered how I could tell the difference between a brown bear, and a brown black-bear. The answer is: the desire to poop your pants is much greater with brown than black. Black bears, whole they technically kill more people, don’t instigate the same fear response.
I still hike the same hikes, I just double up on deterrant methods, always go with a buddy, and keep my dogs leashed if there is bear activity. (Unleashed dogs on hikes where I live is a cultural norm) Everything has risk, and I live here because I love nature.
I encountered a large carnivore in the civilized before but not in the wild. Canadian here for what it’s worth. Ran across a black bear on night shift bang in the middle of a massive oil refinery complex. Paved for a kilometre in every direction.
Black bears are very low risk to humans and I had an F350 between me and it, even still it’s just not something you mess with. It changed the whole course of my day instantly as I had to start reporting to site safety etc, I spent the next 3 hours on the radio.
Other than that I’ve seen the occasional lynx or mountain lion, but at great distance. Generally these things aren’t seen by humans unless they want to be or don’t care. You see them because they’re chasing prey or you get lucky and their out sunning themselves or something and you’re far enough away they aren’t threatened.
Large carnivores are pretty rare and not necessarily the largest wild animal threats to humans or livestock. Something like racoons or foxes taking chickens is a much larger nuisance to many more people than something like a mountain lion taking sheep. And something like a moose or a goose is a lot more likely to fuck you up because people don’t perceive these animals as threats and take way larger risks than they do around predators.
When i was a kid I lived in the mountains of new mexico, and my dad in his infinite wisdom thought he’d surprise my mom and i by buying me a gokart. There were horse trails behind the house that lead into forest and I’d sometimes take it out over those trails as a kid unsupervised.
There was a point where I was going down one of these and something flashed in front of me and my cart hit the back end of something brown. A small, probably young mountain lion’s ass.
It made a pained hissy growly noise and took off running. I immediately turned around and sped home as fast as i could. Almost pissed myself. even though it was obviously small and not coming after me after I hit it, there was an innate fear that this thing could fucking murder me. It was surprising how much scarier the things are when there is no zoo enclosure glass separating you.
That is rad! Was your cart damaged?
Nope! I wasnt going very fast and i barely clipped it.
How awesome of you dad to give you a gokart, regardless! :D That’s fucking epic! Do you have any pictures, or perhaps a model number so that I can look it up?
Poor animal… but I’m glad you made it out of there unscathed!
Unfortunately that was a long time ago, so i dont know the model or make of it, but it looked kinda like this, except blue

That’s fucking sick. Your dad rocks (at least in that case).
A shark. Maybe 7~8 foot long but not thick like a tiger or anything truly scary. Still scared tf out of me so I kinda froze in place ready to fight but it turned away about a foot or two away from me, and disappeared and I rushed back on the boat. My heart was racing hard.
Amazing! And I’m glad you made it back! What was the occasion/situation? Were you diving or just walking in shallow waters or what?
Neighbor was a dive boat captain that my mom got to take me out on weekends. I filled tanks and helped clean up, and got to snorkel during dives.
Cool!
I was walking through some forest in Costa Rica to go from my car to the beach. Halfway through I look up to see an adult crocodile about 50 yards away from me.
I was pretty scared because this was a small stretch of forest and didn’t expect it. Once I go to the beach I turned my chair to make sure a croc didn’t want to eat me or go to the shore of the beach. I later found out crocodiles are really slow. If it was an alligator I might have been toast. I don’t believe Costa Rica has native alligators though.
Wow, great description!!! I would totally have done the same: turn the chair and absolutely not relax xD
Im just glad it’s over and everything ended safely! Needless to say I didn’t spend much time in the ocean haha.
I’ve seen bears out in the woods, and walking down the road in front of my house. Also foxes, although they aren’t big. They were chill, so I was chill. Obviously not interested in anything I was doing.
Awww I so envy people because apparently EVERYBODY EXCEPT ME is entitled to see foxies just not me. :(((
Nah but the next backyard over has been the venue for a spirited yipfest by a pack of coyotes. A few times over the years. I love it every time, even the one morning they woke me up early, it was so awesome that I didn’t mind.
spirited yipfest This is my new love language.
I’ve been almost killed by a grizzly, twice, when I used to live on the eastern slopes of the rockies in Alberta. Climate change and human activity are making it hard for the bears and they are hungry as fuck in those parts.
One time when I was like 6 years old camping with my parents, I went on a walk to the river and got charged from behind a bush, but it didn’t seem hellbent on killing me
Another time I was hiking up a fire cutblock and my buddy and I thought we saw three hikers maybe like 3km uphill from us. Eventually it was obvious is was a mom and cubs, and they were chasing at us full speed (we were upwind from them). If we were a little further into the hike, I think one of us wouldn’t have made it back to the truck in time.
I’ve also been trapped by a moose in my parents garage for 6 hours, once
I still would rather run into either these animals out in the sticks than random humans. I’ve encountered some really sketchy people in my time spent in the woods. Seems to be getting worse too. I’m not a gun person, but that’s why I have a gun.
Trying not to make this personal but I’m much more afraid of a person intentionally carrying a gun, than some random stranger. I understand the urge to protect yourself, but you should take a closer look at your chances of defending yourself, and why you live in fear
I’ve literally been robbed while solo camping before
Since covid there are just a lot of bad people out there. I put my shotgun on my tailgate now and have not had a random drunk crew pull unto my campsite in the middle of the night since lol
I’m much more afraid of a person intentionally carrying a gun
Yeah that’s kind of the idea haha
Yes, all the innocent people you may encounter need to be afraid of being murdered because you live in fear after being robbed by one group once?
People pulling up to my campsite in the middle of the night are not innocent people
Whats your suggestion? Call the cops? Lol
Did they murder you? Does everyone do that?
I feel like you are just arguing for the sake of arguing
Every seasoned camper brings a shotgun with them here, because yes, it’s a surprisingly common issue
Probably true. I wasn’t really trying to but yeah, I have very different attitudes toward deadly weapons than you do.
Perhaps you camp somewhere with deadly wildlife, I don’t know.
Not a carnivore … but a pack of wild boars with piglets in a nearby forest. My initial thought was “fuck” as I walked backwards like Homer in the meme. Once I had some distance I started running.
Any animal regardless of size or perceived danger should just be treated like it’s 10 times larger and covered in knives if it has babies nearby
I encounter wild boars quite often walking back home after work. My advice is to be noisier than them so they can avoid you before you even know they are there.
do you live in eurasia, wild boars are native there they are a seperate species. feral pigs/hogs are the one mostly encountered in us. boars/and feral pigs are viscious, i think they are more dangerous than carnivores.
Yep, that happened in Europe. It was definitely boars.
boars are viscious, even more so than predators. feral pigs are very aggressive in the wild, especially if there are piglets around.
Quite a few actually. Alligators and sharks mostly. Give them space and they usually will leave you alone. Life is risk. 🤷♂️
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. 🤷
I saw eight bears on Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway back in the nineties: a mother and six cubs on one day, and an adult on its own on another. Those fuckers are big.
More recently I was on a coach from Vilnius to Warsaw and saw loads of wolves. Those fuckers are big.
For both occasions I felt something like a distant, muted, primal fear and I was very grateful to be inside a vehicle.
Not a carnivore, but a few years ago I was hiking alone in northern Norway and I came across a small group of reindeer who obviously took a liking to me and followed me for about two hours, very close. They were big enough to do some damage but I didn’t feel even slightly threatened by them, nor them by me, apparently. Those fuckers stink.
They big, they stink, they amazing. :) <3
But seriously, I just read in this book to which I have linked above, that Transylvania has the biggest wolf pack in all of Europe. Poland being pretty close to Romania.