I’m not stuck in time. I’ve embraced dependability.
Is that tire pressure gauge archaic? It’s handy & effective & requires no electricity. I keep one in my glove box.
No shit, do people not check their tire pressure? WTF?
Nah air pumps at the store usually come with them.
Hey that’s my dad’s stuff, give it back!
I feel targeted by this. Also how did you get into my house?
Older doesn’t necessarily mean worse. Dependability is important for sure.
It also doesn’t necessarily mean more dependable. There definitely is a fallacy problem that many fall into where they believe old = reliable.
Well if it is reliable, “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is a good way of looking at it too. This is fair though!
I feel there should be a classic leatherman utility knife in here too lol
Omg, I loved that calculator.
It saw me through five years of math classes. I think I ultimately stored it improperly and something heavy broke the display.
It deserved better.
I once owned that exact alarm clock!
If somebody can still fully operate with this stuff, I’m jealous.
It means they’ve figured it out and they’re immune to almost all of the bullshit.
There’s bound to be some bridge, somewhere, but even then, that only needs to be minimal. These people are heroes and have a special power.
“I’m in this picture and it’s quite OK here.”
My car is a 20 year old shitbox, my bike gets new brake pads and a bit of random lubricant on the chain once a year and other “maintenance” only when parts fall off, and my stereo is a mix of hand me downs from my dad’s college days and some eBay home theatre stuff that got sold because it didn’t support the newest HDMI bullshit.
Oh, and of course it is a Thinkpad, thanks for asking.
Just the other day, a friend of mine running Arch tried to install something, which resulted in him having to do a full system update, including fixing several “that should not happen” s. Meanwhile, every few years I spend an evening update to the newest stable, and never had bigger issues than the color of some icon being unfamiliar.
Man I always hear about these people who have to fix random that should not happen things. Yet I haven’t had that problem in a decade of using rolling distros.
While ever time I’ve ever had a fixed release cycle distro update it implodes. What black magic fuckery is this.
What?!
You haven’t bowed to the gods of built-in obsolescence?! How dare you!?Different colored icon? Literally unusable! Time to distro hop
/jk
I feel like when humble-bragging Thinkpad it must be one of the models that became a Linux enthusiast meme.
Nah, L390 Yoga. I wanted touch because i thought I’d use it, but it ended up in a docking station most of the time anyway. Upgraded RAM and SSD, battery still hold “a few hours” despite being 7+ years old. I figured those 8th gen quad cores would last a while, and so far, they do. Doesn’t feel too terrible compared to my modern core u 235 work laptop.
I don’t have a Thinkpad myself. I do have a 10 year old Acer Aspire V3-372T. It’s a perfectly cromulent laptop. I use it to listen to podcasts and YouTube. I check my emails sometimes. I check weather.gov. I have a copy of my music library. I write my personal budgets. It has a touchscreen that I never use. I get around just fine.
One day, I’ll either get a Thinkpad or a Framework.
Perfectly fine if it does what it should. That is imo the essence of this post: Better is the enemy of good. I wouldn’t buy a new one (again), this one was a bit of an exception (customer return, with a little scratch), since used touch laptops with good performance were quite rare.
I feel called out. Except my mechanical watch is a vintage USSR Podeba. And my 2001 car is a Lexus.
It’s a '96 manual transmission for sure, wallet’s maybe 10yo, never cared for consoles and have some manuals laying around.
I’ve replaced some stuff with my smartphone though and prefer Devuan, Slackware and Gentoo. Of course Thinkpads.I use Debian Stable and I don’t have anything pictured there. Anyhow, it’s getting late and I still have wood to chop and basketmaking to do. /j
Judging by this posi I should probably start using Debian stable
honestly man…it’s not a bad decision. I for a long time didn’t give Debian the time of day. Now i’m daily driving OpenBSD and I use a Debian VM on it for certain dev work (mainly builds and deploys) and then on my second NVME I first went with Bazzite to do gaming but then I changed my mind and was like “meh, debian” and it’s solid. it’s good. it stays out of my way for what I want to do on it which isn’t much.
It’s a decent distro that’s just kinda there and you don’t have to worry about it.
Except the NVIDIA drivers are 40 versions behind and break every time the kernel updates.
I’m so glad it’s not just me that’s had this lol. My laptop blackscreened after a house move and when I saw the GPU was offline I thought it didn’t survive the journey.
My hardware is about 43 versions behind, so… we good. Kinda. Waiting for that bubble to pop.
It’s perfect for my 8 year old laptop
The Nvidia driver in the Debian repos is virtually abandoned, though thankfully the Cuda repos hosted by Nvidia support Debian now, and give Debian users access to the latest drivers, like 610.
I enabled this repo last week on Debian 13 (RTX4080). While it technically works, I’d say it’s not without risks for those not a little familiar with linux.
It first required some fiddling cause the file that is supposed to blacklist Nouveau on boot was renamed by apt as .save or something as a result of the package upgrades, so the system just started loading Nouveau instead of the new driver. Fixing this got me further, as the 610 proprietary driver finally loaded.
Sarting my usual plasma X11 session didn’t work though. It launched but didn’t display shit (grey boxes instead of windows and taskbar basically).
Having also plasma wayland available from sddm, I tried to launch this session and it got me a working desktop. So I ended settling with this. Wayland used to be crap on my system, but with this recent NVIDIA drivers, it’s usable. My only real complaint is the extra latency on the mouse cursor.
I also had some difficulty getting it working on my rig, and I’m not a big fan if Debian’s documentation, as it often does assume knowledge, which makes it harder to follow along and feel confident you’re doing the correct steps.
Ultimately I switched my only Nvidia system to standard Linux Mint to have access to their easy to use Nvidia driver installer, which makes upgrading or downgrading the driver a 1-click process (though it requires a third party PPA done by a canonical employee to access the latest 610 drivers).
Just wait until the kernel updates.
Wait, openbsd can run debian vms?
yup very easy to setup too. it’s a VERY basic netinstall of Debian. but right now I have it to run builds, deploy, and even have nix on there to do some nixos stuff.
Why wouldn’t it be able to if it supports virtualization? Probably could run Windows VMs if you wanted to.
vmm used to only support openbsd as guest os iirc, I guess it has added linux support.
That is where my wallet went, you dick!
I went from cutting edge tech excited nerd to literally this picture, and life is better.
I used to be so excited about a everything-digital during my teenage years. Now I look at my mechanical tools with joy, and become suspicious of anything not having an open firmware.
Me too, friend. Generational leaps were so cool when I was a kid. Now that I’m in my thirties, I just see it all as a rent-a-spy.
At this point, even my printer is suspect. It stays unplugged until it’s needed.
But the phone? It’s a shame the telephone is always listening.
Best part is even when you do a major version update, Debian still doesn’t break your shit. At least it never has with me. Can’t say the same for most other ditros I’ve tried.
I am in this picture and I feel awesome
Shifted to Debian from Ubuntu a few weeks back for my core infra. It could be a placebo but Debian feels way more snappy.
Debian feels way more snappy.
I see what you did there.
No advertisements in the CLI, you say?
Please regale me with more debian factoids. The only linux distro ive ever stuck with was ubuntu but ive been on it steadily for some time now. Your comment was the first time ive considered changing distro.
I have spent very less time on Debian compared to others on this thread. So I’m not very qualified to speak about this topic.
My silly observations
- No snap/Canonical nonsense. I don’t hate snap, but it’s not compatible with my workflow.
- Overall lesser number of processes OOTB compared to Ubuntu. So I can quickly find out if there is a stray process running via htop.
- Terminal operation/reboot seems way faster
- Slower update frequency, so no random feature changes
- Less RAM/disk requirement (Important in the post AI world)
Some quirks when coming from Ubuntu
- No sudo! You either have to install sudo/sudo-rs/doas. I went with doas
- Debian manages network differently (Not netplan)
- Lack of support from Nvidia if you work with AI. I don’t, so not a problem.
If you need to deploy a server with mainly docker workloads, just go with Debian. I have one last remaining Ubuntu server which I’ll replace one day.
- security updates aren’t locked behind an account
after all the snap package nonsense ubuntu is basically just ‘debian but worse and less stable’ Definitely check out debian. Imo the golden years of ubuntu are well done and buried at this point. Tho, i will never forget installing the first beta of the unity desktop on my school laptop way back when, this is all said with a deep love for the project, just cant imagine daily driving it actually having any advantages to other distros atm