• potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.world
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      Even if she’d said yes, it wouldn’t have been permission. She was merely assenting that he was seemingly capable of the act, if nothing else.

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        The homeowner’s assertion of vampire’s abilities gives an implicit permission. If the homeowner says yes he can, who would override that? Belief is a powerful thing

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          In top of that, nobody defined where the vampire is capable of entering… or permitted to enter. Either way, the location wasn’t explicitly defined so who knows which place we’re talking about. Could I give the vampire the permission to enter your house? Would that still be valid? How does this even work?

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            If you have an entrance hall, and you say “you can get in the hall”, can the vampire go past the hall?

            And what if the house’s entrance is itself in a covered enclosed porch, where is the real “entrance”?

            Is the house defined solely by walls? Any kind of wall?

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    Just to be safe, throw out the welcome mat, and replace it with a “Do you have a warrant?” mat.

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        Depends how they can interact with local laws.

        It’s reasonable to conclude a temporary owner could invite someone in, just like a real one. If a warrant involved temporary possession, then the government that issued it would be able to invite someone in, and then if the vampire were charged with a search, that charge would be an invitation.

        Based on wording on example warrants in the US, however, they do not word it as a seizure of the building, even temporary. Makes sense, but at least a US-based vampire with a warrant would need to still be invited in.

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      “Yes! But Nawt for Dis adDress! Your mat did nawt specify de vahlidity of de warrant, bla!”

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    Not to take this too literally but… According to pagan and wiccan practices, the welcome mat gives permission to all potentially negative spirits to enter

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    Sounds like a bit that could fit into What We Do in the Shadows. They could tell the camera how they enjoy how they are able to freely walk into half of modern residences nowadays whenever they want because idiot humans usually have a welcome mat that technically counts as an invitation.

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    A welcome door mat means the person is welcome to announce themselves by knocking or ringing a bell, it does not mean they are welcome to enter.

    If the mat said ‘Come on in’ then it would give anyone, including a vampire, permission to enter.

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    Wasn’t there a serial killer that said an unlocked door meant he was invited to go inside? That’s why I’ve never used a doormat that has “Welcome” on it. Hopefully that applies to vampires too.

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      This is/was “hotly debated”. IMO public schools are like any other public thing and accessible to vamps generally, and Angel was just being sassy when Jenny asked him how he got in.

      But along those lines, my initial response was “Depends on who’s writing” with the Angel/Jenny school scene in mind. “Enter all who seek knowledge” or whatever.

      Overall they were not very consistent when it came to the invitation thing.