• Noxy@pawb.social
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    All research and successful drug policy shows that treatment should be increased And law enforcement decreased while abolishing mandatory minimum sentences

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      Thats what makes this an A tier shitpost.

      I’m willing to concede I have it wrong but I wouldn’t take it seriously. Just Karmanopoly goofing around with quality bait.

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    Trying to combat drug addiction through policing has been proven ineffective time and time again. You may want to rethink that one.

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      Came to say this! Drug addicts need help, not jail. Sure, if they commit a crime police should be involved, but it’s not going to cure their addiction!

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        Idk. I’m a public bus driver, am in pretty consistent contact with drug users. Not to mention living in amongst them in the poorer areas of tow. I’m not saying we should arrest them and give them lengthy sentences, but just leaving them on the street ain’t working out.

        I think a mandatory “time out” in a facility is in order. At least long enough to work the drugs out of their system. Maybe then they can try for a better way with a little clearer head.

        But some days it feels like I’m living in a post apocalypse mad Max type place. It’s bullshit that they’re allowed to just trash anyplace they are. There’s what’s best for them, and there’s what’s best for the rest of us. There’s gotta be something done.

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            I mean if you want to get specific what I really want is to remind police that doing drugs is illegal and they should focus on busting those people…instead of kids having fun on scooters

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                In the US it’s so they can give black people felonies for being black so they can’t vote.

                That’s literally what started the war on drugs. Well, blacks and hippies.

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                  This is also why alcohol, which is a way more harmful drug to others than all of the illegal drugs[1], is legal.

                  [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21036393/

                  Findings: MCDA modelling showed that heroin, crack cocaine, and metamfetamine were the most harmful drugs to individuals (part scores 34, 37, and 32, respectively), whereas alcohol, heroin, and crack cocaine were the most harmful to others (46, 21, and 17, respectively). Overall, alcohol was the most harmful drug (overall harm score 72), with heroin (55) and crack cocaine (54) in second and third places.

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              riding scooter at 12 seems to be illegal too in vancouver, and people have fun on drugs too, so seems to me both things are pretty much interchangeable in your argument

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              Busting drug addicts will do ZERO to help the drug and crime problems. Even law enforcers will tell you that.

              Those problems are so much more complex, and require fundamental reforms in social policies, mental healthcare, education, youth programmes, city planning etc. And then there’s the issue of dealing with the gangs, smugglers and foreign organized syndicates bringing the stuff into the country.

              Kids driving recklessly on scooters (which are often modified) are:

              A) A danger to themselves

              B) A danger to pedestrians they could crash into

              C) A serious danger to cars that swerve to avoid them when they go out on the main road.

        • Lumelore (She/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Putting someone in timeout maybe works for three year olds but it doesn’t work for adults even if you hold them there 1000 times longer. Restitution and rehabilitation is a significantly more effective solution and results in much lower recidivism. Only reason to lock someone in a box is if they present a significant danger to the public, and that’s not to punish them, but to protect others.

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            The temporary decriminalization of doing drugs in British Columbia expired in January 2026

            So doing illicit drugs like crack or fentanyl on the streets is currently illegal again.

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      I read it as they are both bad things the police enjoys, but seeing OPs comments I don’t think that was the intent.

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    Well if they would fix traffic infrastructure to support bicycles and other alternative transports they would have less of a problem with this.

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    You get people off drugs by building a society where people aren’t being oppressed and used as slaves. Not by putting them in jail and making their life worse.

    Kids on the other hand aren’t fully mature and don’t realize that ‘just’ 30mph on a scooter can lead to a deadly crash pretty easily

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      Teach the kids to use a scooter properly, all across asia children ride electrics without incident, but I am constantly hearing how dangerous they are back in America where barely anyone rides scooters.

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    I hate the police like everybody elese, but why huntig addicts? They do nothing except to themself… But a 12yo on a scooter is mostly dangerous.

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    Dont fight drug use, fight drug distribution and the root problems why people are on the street taking drugs

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        Drug use is a social problem. If I offered you a huge bag of fentanyl for free right now, would you take it? What conditions in your life would make you more likely to accept it? Lets address the things which cause those conditions for other people.

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          Well, it depends. Do I have to pay for the fentanyl? Because if not, Imma take that bag of drugs to the hospital so they can dispose of it in a safe manner.

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          If you have a bag of fentanyl to give out then putting you in jail solves the problem in my view

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    Remember that time we legalized cannabis and it had literally zero impact on society? Let’s do that with the rest of them too.

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    Why would drug addicts give up their dealers? For one, they still need someone to distribute them drugs. Secondly snitching out dealers is pretty dangerous. Thirdly, why? What incentive does an addict have? Not to go to prison? That is often a better choice than staying on the streets. In prison at least you have a place to sleep, it’s warm and you get food three times a day. I don’t know the prison conditions in Canada. But where I live, I’d a hundred percent rather go to prison than stay on the street.

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      What if it was life in prison?

      Places like Singapore don’t have drug problems because they deal with it like it should be

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        Why not just shoot everyone who ever thought the word “weed” in the head? That’ll clearly improve society. Then your kid can finally kickflip their scooter at 30mph and kill an elderly person in peace.

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        Freedom will always lead to more crime. If we want freedom, we will have to accept crime.

        Also just because something is not visible, it does not mean it’s not there. China for example appears to have no homelessness, but that is simply untrue. It has a major problem, but makes sure the majority of people and tourists don’t get to see it. Singapur may not in fact have a drug problem, but if that is due to the radical approach of criminilisation or due to broad wealth of most inhabitants cannot be seen from outside.

        Also all studies show that harsh punishments are actually detrimental to battling criminal behaviour.

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            Punishment in Singapore are hard for drug dealers, not drug addicts.

            Singapore separates low-level abusers from traffickers, bringing them to mandatory rehabilitation and supervision centers.

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      Scooters aren’t inherently more dangerous. But people don’t take their safety seriously. They don’t wear helmets and protection. Resulting in more injuries and TBIs.